Can we stop arming Bahrain’s tyrants please?
A former foreign minister makes a valid point, as another Arab tyranny wobbles.
By Mehdi Hasan Published 17 February 2011 13:48It's getting ugly in Bahrain – the BBC is reporting three dead and hundreds injured, as the emir's security forces disperse thousands of anti-government protesters in Pearl Square in the centre of the capital, Manama.
It's also getting worryingly sectarian. As the BBC notes in its online report:
Since independence from the UK in 1971, tensions between the Sunni elite and the less affluent Shia have frequently caused civil unrest. Shia groups say they are marginalised, subject to unfair laws and repressed.
Along with Iran and Iraq, Bahrain is one of three Shia-majority countries in the Middle East. There are rumours of Saudi support for Bahraini security forces; the Sunni elite have long been paranoid about a so-called Shia crescent emerging in the region. As the New York Times's Nicholas Kristof tweeted earlier:
Witnesses say #Bahrain police cursed Shia as they attacked peaceful demonstrators. I haven't found 1 Sunni victim.
So what can we do, here in the UK? I have a suggestion. How about we stop arming the Bahraini security forces? Is that such a radical or crazy suggestion, in the midst of all this bloodshed? The Labour MP and former Foreign Office minister Denis MacShane has just sent out a press release stating that:
According to the Department of Business's report on weapons exports, minister in the third quarter of 2010 agrees to export licences to Bahrain for the equipment listed below:
Q3 2010 Pivot Report
OIEL issued for CS hand grenades, demolition charges, demolition devices, exploding simulation devices, fire simulation equipment for small arms ammunition, illuminators, military devices for initiating explosives, signal flares, signal hand grenades, smoke ammunition, smoke canisters, smoke generators, smoke hand grenades, stun grenades, tear gas/irritant ammunition, tear gas/riot control agents, thunderflashes, training anti-aircraft ammunition, training hand grenades; (Source House of Commons Library)
MacShane says:
William Hague is shockingly complacent about the exports of British weapons used to kill, wound and repress innocent people protesting for their rights in Bahrain. At the very least all these exports should be suspended.
He makes a valid point. I'm not sure what the government's counter-argument would be!
If I wanted to be mean, though, I might remind Denis that the New Labour government – and Foreign Office – he was part of had no qualms about supplying weapons and training to some of the world's most repressive governments, including regimes in the Arab world. Plus ça change . . .
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Driving out demonstrators and destroying a makeshift encampment that had become the hub for demands to bring sweeping political changes to the kingdom.I'm really surprised that Obama is making such anti-democracy comments recently, and not being more openly supportive. The latest example is the TMZ clip that captured some off the cuff comments from Obama: http://fms.nu/gQi1sK
If he keeps this up, the United States will be looked down upon for not supporting freedom and equality in opportunity for all people. This is something that was supposed to be core to American values.
Dictators in Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and Jordan are the dogs for US and its allies. They do not represent us. Obama or that fake teeth lady won't say that.
We, Muslims are not worth of democracy. Because dictators are doing a tremendous job for their interests. If we want democracy, freedom and human dignity then they will shift their voice elsewhere as usual "Muslim Brotherhood will go in power" etc.
Des Demona - this is for human dignity. Arab uprisings are against US & Israeli hegemony. I really don't think you have got it. My World Cup ticket ok? What is this? This is a human survivor.
Democracy is not an option for the Middle East because the US interests; oil, Israel, military bases will not be there any more. Bolivia: Evo Morales got rid of the bases.Venezuela: oil and business were nationalised after Chavez came to power. 2002 he was kidnapped as a part of the coup which didn't work. Democracy in the Arab world do not suit US's needs. Not CIA and Mossad are in the middle of the military. But that day is over. Power by the people era.
People should understand that these corrupted leaders do not represent us as Sunnis. Since they kill Sunnis people as well. As a Sunni I'd like to see Iraq and Bahrain Shia leaders - I really do like many other young Sunnis who fed up these Sunnis dictators. I support the Shias and Sunnis unity. After all, we are all Muslims. And we get pick up as Muslims not Shias and Sunnis. Nothing comes between us!
@sven: that video doesn't fit my image of what it is like here. I know that in Lakemba, the highest concentration of Muslims in Sydney, there is a Jewish sheriff. The Muslims that I know are very friendly and generous. Second and third generations are moving away from their parent's cultural interpretation of the Koran. But I understand your concern but you've got to be careful of how some parts of the media are portraying Islam.
@ Mr Divine,
My wife works in a hospital with Muslims and says they are nice people. I dont have anything against the Muslim people but I know they have something against me, hence my defensive stance. I mean I am not a racist, its more about the Ideology, Islam and Islamism - the violent supremacists who keep 'misunderstanding' (or not) there religion on a daily basis, the stealthy methods that they are trying to implement sharia in the west and always claiming victim status whenever anyone criticizes it.
@ Mr Divine, I can see your point and maybe if we take the example of Iran supplying Hamas, a terror group, then cutting down the supply chain seems valid. I still think that when were talking guns that are so readily available worldwide that if it wasn't us, would be someone else - and ultimately no one is asking anyone to pull the trigger and shoot there own people - a terrible thing but its the chain of command in Bahrain that has sanctioned it.
If were talking missiles and weapons of mass destruction than yes I agree its best not to supply rouge states, but again, all countries have defense budgets and until there is relative peace between nations - certainly in the middle east, the ability to supply and demand arms will continue.
Having a strong army is what has enabled Israel to survive and actually keep the peace, so it is counteractive too. Without it, the Muslim nations that surround it wouldn't hesitate to kill it off.
This also seems to have been the case for Libya, although some of the arms have now fallen into the hands of the people. Unfortunately arms exports are always guided by commercial interests and expediency rather than ethical considerations.
I just received an update this morning from my mother who is unfortunately stuck in Tripoli: she's braved armed vigilantes, gunfire, roadblocks, burning vehicles and looting. She reports that there seems to be a collapse of the security apparatus in Tripoli now. Flights out today have been cancelled and others are heavily overbooked (she had been due to leave this morning but will now have to wait another day or two) as those who can, flee. All internet and mobile lines are also down. The turmoil only seems to be spreading in the region - who knows where it will end.
@Sven King, ill put my hands up the rape of the journalist was wrong just like any other rapes, but you blaming this rape on the followers of Mohammed and implying that it is only they who carry out this forms of sadistic act is stupid in itself, what about all the gang rape that take place in the UK, who do blame for that.
If anyone had any doubts to the positive influence of western democratic values over Islam, watch this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00rqfsv/Women_Weddings_War_and_Me/
The footage on the BBC of well-equipped Saudi troops in armoured vehicles rolling into Bahrain really is horrific, and represents the blatant double standards of this so-called coalition "resolution".
Sven King you seem to be deluded in your thoughts, first all let me make it clear the journalist was sexually assaulted and yes it is a very horrible crime but she was not raped.. so lets get our facts right. And yes i agree sexual assault is a heinous crime and those people who carried out these acts need to be punished. But your stupid analysis of letting these group of few people who carried out these acts and representing them as the millions who marched for the revolution is a ridiculous. You are judging the whole egyptian revolution on the acts of a few criminals, for gods sake you sound really petty. Please tell me where in the Quran does it state you can rape women, give me the verse please before you make ridiculous claims. Seems to me, you being a British Jew, your real problem with the whole Egyptian revolution is the fact that democracy will take over, and the new government chosen by the people of Egypt just might decide not to have a close relationship with their israeli neighbors.
You speak about how British Muslims are always using the whole Palestine and Iraq issue as a smoke screen, maybe you should take your own advice... all muslims do not hate jews.
The British collaboration with autocratic regimes dated back 1st World War, even beyond that. The idea is simple: to cultivate “Muslim nationalists,” challenging British hegemony because the British planner sliced up the Middle East in small territories in order to remain it under British control. After 60s British Empire lost and withdrew its military but relies on political and commercial influence.
Popular Arab nationalists were not good in the Muslims world. Dictators and monarchs have been useful to the British and US foreign policy since 19th century. After 1928 the US took a dominant role and maintains use of force where its interests challenge by popular democratic movements.
Nevertheless, dictators have been taken a very useful to London and Washington. These dictators are ad hoc opportunism to their imperial leaders in Washington and Whitehall. Therefore, Britain and the US have talked the talk but never have walked the walk of people power and freedom and human dignity. And other myth words such as human rights etc. History tells the otherwise when one looks into it.
@Sven King: the question is " Should we supply arms to Bahrain?"
I agree with you re the need for people to have the vote.
But lets think about this on a broader scale. I'm married and have four young children. Now I reckon that 99.9% of the world's population wants a peaceful existence if only for the sake of their children, and their children's children. Do you have children? If so then you know what I mean.
If I said to you, "Hey I've got some heroin, let's sell it to kids and use our kids to push it."
I mean someone got to do it why not 'us' make a few readies doing it? I mean we'll be alright Jack. Eh? Eh? What do you say Sven?, lets push a few land mines oh sorry I meant heroin to our kids... they'll make us rich.
I am well aware of the world as I have travelled far and wide Sven King and there is one thing that the world needs the VERY VERY MOST and that is peace. And somebody has to stop making money manufacturing heroin , sorry armaments.
WHY SHOULDN'T IT BE GREAT BRITAIN?
ARE WE NOT GREAT?
SOMEONE HAS TO START.
SOMEONE
Its might be a pipe dream but its the only dream that we should have.
the left should be really focusing on why cameron was on a fucking arms proliferation tour of the region when this all kicked off
i mean, it's just unreal ffs ://////
For democracy to work, Muslims have to rise above sectarian instincts. Sadly, I doubt the Islamic world is capable of achieving this. You are a good example of what I mean. http://www.plumbingprojects.net/
Jesus, Mehdi, tyrants, all they do is support the Scot's whisky industry singlehandedly, and shag lots of our air stewards! Tyrants no????
Even Delva Murphy was chatted up by a PAL. guy in the strip, after this incident I do believe Arabs shag camels!
I think it ironic no one is talking about Iran and it's double-standards.
On the one hand it praises the protesters in Tunisia and Egypt and with the other, it attacks protesters in it's own heartland.
And just to up the ante, Iranians are planning to send two warships to the Suez Canal.
SvenKing easy to take narrow capitalist view of simple arms trading when you clearly aren't familiar with Western agenda in region. And what mythical rape-free country do you live in??
Thank you for shedding some light on this Mehdi. Bahrain is witnessing the beginning of it's worst chapter against the opposers of the violent regime. I hope the UK can now help rectify this by exerting pressure on our Saudi-controlled system.
@ londoner72
We didn't ask them to shoot there own people, they did, we didnt pull the trigger. The Bahrain govt are responsible for there own actions and not the UK Shop Keeper for selling these Arab Adults weapons.
Your missing the point, she was gang raped, in public and we are told in the left wing press how bad Mubarak was, but look at what these so called freedom fighters act like - Savages.
Was is not enough that they were making history, that they thought to gang rape an infidel reporter (who because she's got blonde hair is easy) and was a staunch supporter of those people...
@ Sven King
Were we only playing the part of a shop keeper? In effect we created the situation because a minority with bats and clubs cannot oppress a majority with bats and clubs for decades; we gave them the ability to enforce their will. Anyway someone taking a ‘we only gave them the gun’ approach to this doesn't have problems with anyone who supplies weapons to their enemies?
You mentioned that the woman was raped in public, ever heard of a psychological/social phenomenon known as diffusion of responsibility? Look it up you'll soon find that there are men and women who've been raped, abused and murdered in public with many bystanders as witness but no stopped to help; by the way it's happened here and in America as well.
Look I don't know what you have against humanity but it’s about time you realised you're a part of it just like every other person on this planet regardless of race, nationality, religion or ideology.
@Sven king: you wrote,
'Listen if it wasn't us...it would be someone else, I'll take the Bahrain dollars.'
Then you'll have blood on your hands.
Actually I own sheep and help the butcher slaughter them.
And today it's been reported that Gaddafi's regime has been using French-made Mirage fighter jets to bomb its own people in Tripoli, with mass aerial bombardments of Benghazi expected within the next two hours.
The best thing about being British is that we are a caring, loving, honest people whose first instinct is to help people. Now how can we be true to ourselves if we make money from selling arms that kill and injure people?
I'm not suggesting that we all become pacifists but is it not possible for us to set an example to the rest of the world? We have already led the world through our industrial innovations into an era of great material wealth which has brought benefits far and wide.
Our greatness stems from our ability to innovate so why innovate in the realm of peace? Is this not the greatest thing that our nation can do?
Lets start by stopping all armament exports.
To innovate, to start something new.
I suppose there is a case for a new religious text. A combination of the best bits from the Torah, New Testament and the Koran.
We'll call it 'The Third Kingdom'
The Third Kingdom
1. Thou shall not rape
2. Thou shall not kill .. self defence is excluded.
3. Thou shall not steal
Everyone in agreement so far?
@sven king: 'My wife works in a hospital with Muslims and says they are nice people.'
Trust what your wife says.
Somehow we have to find a way beyond these words and books of the past.
Sven, is it not possible for you to go somewhere and met Muslims? Just one to one and talk to them like your wife does. Say who you are.
In Australia there is prejudice but what I've noticed is that it can be broken down when people met other people. Peace is attainable and this is what we should be looking for. Why don't you try to make a personal connection with a Muslim person? Go somewhere and strike up a conversation.
If every person can make a slight effort towards their enemies than an evolution can begin. Pass it on. Give something to someone else.
I know it's peace and love but what else can you expect from me?
The saviour has to come some time!
Nice article Mehdi. I totally agree that shooting unarmed protesters is a disgusting and despicable crime, wherever it takes place.
But did you remember to call for arms to be stopped to Iraq's ruthless and sectarian Shiite rulers when Shiite death squads were murdering civilians in Baghdad in police uniforms? Sadly, I dont remember you objecting to arms being given to Iraq's police force or army to use against Sunnis for the past 7 years.
I also doubt you will write anything in support of the democratic protests by the brave Iranian people against the vile Mullahs in Iran.
For democracy to work, Muslims have to rise above sectarian instincts. Sadly, I doubt the Islamic world is capable of achieving this. You are a good example of what I mean.
Let's face it. You are deeply sectarian despite the best education in the world. And there are just as many Sunnis like you.
So Divided you Must fall...and the sooner the better.
@Sven King: Its good that you recognise the dilemma. Have you ever thought that the promised land might be somewhere else. Genesis 49 v10 talks of The Rock. Did you know that there is place in Australia called The Rock and Australia is a much safer place to live than London.
The Rock is the Riverina near me and in Oz people 'mostly' live in peace and mix. There is no fear of racial attacks where I live. You could sell your house in London and become a sheep farmer... easy work and very safe for your children.
@Sven King; You didn't eally answer my question?
On the one hand you say Britain should make arms and sell them for money. Yet those arms are going to a Muslim country which is a threat to Jews in Israel .. even in the UK. In effect you are supporting supplying Muslim people who could potentially use the arms against you and the Jewish people.
You are arming your perceived enemies for money.
In public the govt claims to be lovers of freedom and democracy
In private, they are propping up dictators all over the world, ever since WW1. Divide and conquer, allow the minority to brutally control the majority. But with Facebook, Twitter the young populations have had enough and the the Middle East will be clensed from these dictators.
It's time the West showed some morality and backed democracy in the Middle-East rather than puppets
Thank you UK government for arming the Bahraini government, there's no need to for the Foreign Office issue a press statement expressing 'concern' at the scale of state violence. We know whose side you're really on.
Nice one, Mehdi.
Question 1: "Will Hilary Clinton now come out and say the demostrators in Bahrain, coincidentally the home of the US Navy's 5th Fleet, have as much right to freedom and democracy as those in Egypt?
Question 2: "Will President Obama come out and tell the ruler of Bahrain that Bahrain needs to peacefully transition to a free and democratic state"?
Please do.
What news of Qatar? Are my world cup tickets going to be ok?
@ Mr Divine, All very well but moving = giving into these people. Anyway in the UK its not just Jews who are victims on Islamic supremacists - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1359160/4-men-slashed-teachers-f...
And dont worry if your feeling left out, the Islamist threat is coming a city near you - probably there :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsiKVc028I0already.
I personally agree with you, Mehdi. I would also, however, introduce an extensive list of other arms deals, legal and illegal, and the dictatorships of convenience that our country and other western powers are currently propping up for their own convenience, and say let's wipe that whole slate clean. That's not going to happen - I have that clear, don't get me wrong! - but we cannot deny that we are entirely inconsistent and the bottom line of actual practice in selling arms comes down to one thing: Does it suit our government and those we are allied with, or does it not? There is no moral compass. The very fact that we helped install Saddam Hussein and then, when he became inconvenient, aided his demise, is evidence of this - though lack of evidence there is not.
Let's not pretend we have a moral compass here. It comes down to power and money and making sure 'we're alright Jack'.
I think most people do want a peaceful coexistence but some idiots don't. And indeed that is a problem. I haven't seen Medhi dispatch any hatred as yet towards the Jews but please feel free to prove me wrong.
And I do agree with you over the Israeli hysterics. I can understand how Jewish must feel.
Don't you see that some of your views seem incompatible. On the one hand you say Britain should make arms and sell them for money. Yet those arms are going to a Muslim country which is a threat to Jews in Israel .. even in the UK. In effect you are supporting supplying Muslim people who could potentially use the arms against you and the Jewish people.
Oh and if Qatar does erupt and Mehdi does what he normally does and writes a critical piece on a Muslim country only after the population have rioted, will he be guilty of his own self-coined Qatarophobia?
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