The rise of Qatarphobia
I’m fed up with the reaction to Fifa’s decision to award the 2022 World Cup to the tiny Gulf emirate.
By Mehdi Hasan Published 04 December 2010 14:16
I was reviewing the paper's on Stephen Nolan's BBC Radio 5 Live show last night, and I was astounded at the number of callers and texters who were outraged over the decision by Fifa to award the 2022 World Cup to the emirate of Qatar. Even liberal bloggers on Twitter joined in on Thursday, after the announcement was made.
Can we all calm down, please? Yes, Qatar will be boiling hot in the summer of 2022 and, no, it doesn't have a big footballing pedigree. But, I would argue, both points also apply to the United States and yet I don't remember there being a big hoo-ha over the Yanks hosting the World Cup in 1994. (Remember the then Irish coach, Jack Charlton, losing it over the heat and lack of water bottles?)
In fact, as CNN has reported, Qatar plans to use state-of-the-art technology, involving solar thermal collectors and photovoltaic panels, to keep pitch temperatures below 27°C. And, as for "pedigree", Qatar is undoubtedly a footballing minnow, but it has won the Gulf Cup twice, in 1992 and 2004, both times as host, and will be hosting the Asian Cup next year. Young Qataris are as passionate about the global game as their neighbours.
The Guardian's in-house Middle East expert Brian Whitaker has an excellent piece on Comment Is Free debunking some of the other myths about Qatar and the World Cup. He makes four key points:
- "Qatar is ludicrously wealthy . . . Since money is no problem, one thing we can be reasonably sure of is that when 2022 arrives, Qatar's World Cup infrastructure will meet the highest standards and there won't be a last-minute cliffhanger over facilities as happened with the Commonwealth Games in India."
- "Alcohol is not actually illegal in Qatar, though it's an offence to drink or be drunk in public. The bigger hotels sell alcohol and foreigners living in Qatar can buy it under a permit system. I'm baffled as to why some people think this should disqualify Qatar from hosting the World Cup. Considering the problems that can arise with drunken fans, Qatar's restrictions don't seem unreasonable."
- "Gay sex is illegal in Qatar, though the authorities don't normally go out of their way to track gay people down . . . very few gay-related cases have been reported in Qatar."
- "Compared with some parts of the Middle East, the country has had very little trouble with jihadist militants."
He's right on all four points. I've been to Qatar, and Saudi Arabia it ain't. Don't get me wrong: like every other Gulf nation, Qatar has an autocratic and reactionary regime and is far from liberal or democratic. But let's not pretend the objections to the emirate hosting the 2022 World Cup revolve around human rights. I mean, China – China! – just hosted the Olympics. And Russia was awarded the 2018 World Cup on the same day as Qatar got 2022's. Russia, described in the leaked US diplomatic cables as a "virtual mafia state", has been involved in wars with its neighbours (Georgia) and with its own people (Chechnya) and has a much worse human-rights record than Qatar. For example, I can't remember the last time Qatar launched a bombing raid on a crowded city centre.
So, can we please just lose the Qatarphobia and get a grip?
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I don't appreciate straight people telling me what is and is not homophobic. It is clearly there in the OP BLATANTLY including the homophobic laws in the "Qatarphobia" demanding we "calm" down and saying that the homophobia there isn't "soo bad"
So, yes, I will protest the homophobia of FIFA. AND I will protest the homophobia of Mehdi Hasan in dismissing this homophobia and glossing over it.
I most certainly have an argument with all - the homophobic organisations that ignore the abuse of our rights, the governments that continue to treat us as lesser beings and the journalists who pretend it isn't that bad and protest is hysterical and overwrought
"Gay sex is illegal in Qatar, though the authorities don't normally go out of their way to track gay people down...very few gay-related cases have been reported in Qatar."
How would you feel if America criminalized Islam, but said - Oh, we will only enforce it to arrest terrorists?
Wow, seriously?! You're "fed up" about this? I'm more "fed up" by people, who think it's okay that these countries are treating people even shittier than we are. US might not be perfect, but does it mean we're supposed to sit back?
Muscularliberal,
"It's also a close ally of Iran that refuses to recognise Israel...."
May I add this ad endum..... an important ally of the US since the late 90's, serves as host to US military facilities for command,basing and equipment, third largest field of pre-proven natural gas reserves in the world and enjoys the highest per capita income of anywhere in the Middle East ( US Embassy report, CRS -congressional research service - prepared for members and committee of congress2008)http://www.usembassy.it/pdf/other/RL31718.pdf
........which also goes on to mention their change to a more liberal stance, praises their progress regarding women and the right to vote and run for national office, the US Combat Air Operations Centre is based there regarding Afghanistan and Iraq since 2003, America has over 1 billion dollars invested in the exploration of Qatar's natural gas reserves, Qatar isn't subject to OPEC conditions, Qatar has signed several agreements with the US and other energy companies to export gas to the agreed countries, 1991 Gulf War and since has seen coalition forces operating from Qatari territory, Qatar gave over 100 million dollars in relief following Hurricane Katrina, Qatar invested over a million dollars in the building of american bases on Qatari territory, a further 126 billion dollars was authorised by congress for military operations in Qatar, US exports over a six month period to Qatar were worth 1.45 billion dollars, fuel and fertilizers over the same period were worth 338 million.
Other facts - the Emir gave land for an Anglican church to be built and finally, Iran and Qatar, according to the same US congressional report, maintain a positive relationship,they share a gas field off the Qatari coast and maintain respectful and peaceful relations concerning the production and related co-operations regarding the field.
So - I'd say it was a closer ally of America than it was Iran, wouldn't you and who really has the bigger interest in Qatar - Iran or America? According to the US congressional report, it's not Iran.
Should we just sit around and just wait for Qatar t activate its anti human rights laws and then protest, Or because they don't jail and torture people for being gay (now) then it's ok?
"though the authorities don't normally go out of their way to track gay people down"
Very nice of them, no probs there then.
"Compared with some parts of the Middle East, the country has had very little trouble with jihadist militants." Well that is some standard to be judged by.
As for your own point at the end, that Russia and China got major games therefore the problems of Qatar are null and void, did your mother never tell you that three wrongs don't make a right?
Quality Journalism from a quality journalist.
Just a thought but seeing as we lost out to Russia and not Qatar, why is everything negative therefore directed at Qatar?
I understand the pact with Spain regarding 2018 but it's not the first time there's been such pacts re the world cup and you don't see Spain complaining that Qatar got 2022 so why is every radio phone in and red top decrying Qatar getting to host the world cup as opposed to us when actually it's Russia that got?
"Qatarphobia"!
Another specious "phobia" to hurl at critical voices. What a valuable contribution Mehdi makes to open debate.
Many writers at this paper rightly point out that much discussion of israel is suppressed by people shouting "anti-semite!" as soon as the topic is raised. It seems Mehdi is now playing the same card without shame or self-awareness.
Mehdi, you'll find liberal criticism comes from the emirate's awful record on everything from transparecy to democracy to human rights, to equality, to racism, to fair treatment of women. You'll find ample criticism on Russia about these - especially concerns about virulent racism and corruption - if you cared to stop acting as a self-appointed member of the anti-qatar defamation league.
To criticise another commenter on the basis that you were "not talking about" qatar's disgusting politics - illiberalism is a deliberately obfuscatory euphemism - is to miss the point: you are being criticised because you are not talking about them. Because you would prefer such issues were not part of the debate. Well, tough. They are. Your attempt to expunge them is pretty shameful.
I dearly love the NS, but stupid posts like Mehdi's make me wonder when he's going to get that tap on the shoulder.
Came to this page from the link titled "myth-busting" - ok bust these myths, if not shut up and stop having a go at those who do not favour Qatar.
1) Qutar is essentially built by slave laborour mostly from South Asia. Some people (including the Qutar government deny this). Human rights groups do not and anyone who has got on a plane in between Bangladesh and Qutar will know the truth of this.
2) Qutar is owned by a dictator.
3) Qutar has the same population as East Anglia.
4) The temperature is so high that air conditioning will have to be used in open top stadiums - ridiculous.
5) The stadiums will be dismantled. It is claimed that this will not be a problem as they will be donated elsewhere. So where is the lasting legacy?
6) Women's rights in Qatar are laughable. The only defence that seems to come from Qatarphiles is that at least it is not as bad as Saudi Arabia. Great, thanks. Similar point on Gay rights only people saying it is fine because not that many people are prosecuted.
7) The world cup has been given to Qatar because of their wealth rather than people.
Oh no!
I've re-read my last post, and it seems..... I've got.... the horror.... the shame....
Mehdiphobia!
Arrrrggghhh! The deligimation! It burns! It burns!
I need to get my priorities straight:
- ability for bigoted fiefdom to stage bloated crony-bastard football junket
trumps
- rights of and justice for fellow man.
This progressive lark is harder than I thought!
Buckskin...you are a nothing.
mehdi
it is football you prick. a game that used to be for diehard fans, not airmchair numpties like you. south africa was bad enough having 90% of the people in the stadium who had never been to a game. russia will be dire. qatar will be like a trip to disneyland. when did the real fans stop being important?
you dont have a clue
I think we should make sure that being a Muslim is a criminal offence in the UK.
But we shouldn't enforce it very much, and there won't be very many muslim-related cases every year.
Would you be happy with that, Mehdi?
Perhaps it should also be mentioned that it is illegal in Qatar for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man, while it is perfectly legal for a Muslim man to marry a Christian or Jewish woman. Not only that, but he doesn't even habve to inform his new wife that he is already married!!!! Once the marriage is consumated, she cannot initiate a divorce, but he can divorce here simply by saying "I divorce you!' three times. Clearly, Messrs Hassan and Whitaker don't see a problem with that!
As a reader of longstanding, I am tired of the continual excusing on religious grounds of the discrimination against and persecution of non-Muslims, women and gay people by a group of people including Mr Hassan, Tariq Ali and Ken Livingstone. I have asked Mr Hassan before to give us a clear statement that he supports full legal equality for people of all religions, genders and sexual orientation, expressly including the right of Muslims to convert to another religion without persecution, equal marriage and divorce rights for all men and women, Muslim and non-Muslims.
So far, he has failed to do that. I hope at the next board meeting at the New Statesman they will be asking for him to make such a statement, which is no less than one would expect of an editor of a magazine that is supposed to be advocating equality.
Why is the mainstream media so shrill? I really don't think it's good for the health of the country.
Qatar will be amazing! I can't wait for 2022!
People don't know the place and therefore should hold their judgement. I am a British expat who has lived in Qatar for 14 years and seen it develop enormously during that time. I have absolute faith that Qatar will deliver and if people opened their minds, everyone right now could be looking forward to a great new experience! After all, it is the "World" Cup why shouldn't the Middle East have an opportunity to establish it's standing in the world.
"China hosted the olympics, therefore some other abusive autocracy should host the world cup."
Welcome to the parallel universe where two wrongs make one right.
All the comments about homophobia in Qatar are quite interesting. The thing is that homosexuality wasn't decriminalised in UK until 1967!
I fail to see how "China is bad" turns into an argument for "don't criticize Qatar".
Give me a break.
Mehdi, answer this then from LiF please,
'I think we should make sure that being a Muslim is a criminal offence in the UK.
But we shouldn't enforce it very much, and there won't be very many muslim-related cases every year.
Would you be happy with that, Mehdi?'
The English are going to be throwing their toys out of the stroller for years over this meaningless nonsense. I hope the U.S. never gets that thing again...keep it.
I respect Mehdi Hasan' position on many things,under the Voltairean principles but this is nonsense. Russia may have been an equal to the england bid but Qatar will never be an equal to an australian bid. i expect an overcrowded,hot and uncomfortable month of football and then a number of white elephant stadiums to lie empty and rusting for the next decade
What happens if Israel qualify?
Giving Qatar the World Cup is utterly ridiculous. The US should be staging the 2022 World Cup.
America has all the infrastructure in place and has the record of the best attended tournament ever. They only lost by a handful of votes no doubt thanks to Qatar greasing the wheels.
For the record I don't think England deserved to win either. I don't hear them complaining about the IOC which is equally corrupt as FIFA when it comes to the bidding process for the Games.
Qatar is not placed to host the Tournament. All this cobblers about cooling the stadiums is nonsense. You will have games lasting about 20 minutes as after that teams from outside the equator will be wilting when it is 50c in the shade!
All in all FIFA is corrupt and awarding the next two world cups to a "mafia state" and a "highly corrupt emirate" is a disgrace to FIFA and football!
The dream final would be Israel v UAE and the score 0 : 2.
I agree with Mehdi
why the big hoo haa
basically
Britain is just sulking
one again
we Brits just love to have a big moan and whinge
and I failt to see how the laws of homosexuality in Qatar affect it being host for the World Cup!
That's a different argument altogether
@swatantra. Israel should no longer be a member of UEFA. They should join the AFC.
Oh I forgot everyone hates them and thats why they pretend to be "European"!
But Qatar has a population of 1.7m, there's English counties with a larger population than that, and that's a lot of big stadia being built for a one off competition in a small country. They should've at least had a joint bit with the UAE.
I really thought the 2022 competition should've been awarded to sports mad Australia. The new/refurbished stadia would've been used constantly not just for football (which hopefully the World Cup would boost in Australia) but also for Rugby League and Rugby Union so no white elephants.
Apologies, that should say "joint bid" not "joint bit" :)
I'll still be sitting this one out.
It was ridiculously naive of me to think that FIFA would, in this time when we're finally addressing homophobia in sports, hold back from giving the world cup to 2 of the most anti-gay nations on the planet.
I'm past tired of straight people telling me we shouldn't be offended by a nation that makes my existence illegal. And "very few cases are prosecuted"?
REALLY? That is your defence?! If they had a law that made being Jewish a crime would you really say "they don't enforce it that much! What are you worried about?!"
And "Qatarphobia?" REALLY? Did you seriously say that? Thanks for for dismissing concerns about homophobia as being silly "Qatarphobia" which is totally equivalent, right?
Mehdi, I think your perception is pretty warped if you think taking the World Cup to Qatar is a good idea. There's all the criticisms you allude to (but do not mention the idiocy of relying on completely unproven technology). However the main problem with staging it there, beside the impossibility of even walking down the street in the summer, is the fact that THERE IS NOBODY THERE. Qatar has a native population the size of Bognor Regis with most of the rest of the population being migrant South Asian workers. What on earth is the point of building all these huge stadiums there when there is no one to sit in them? It is utter lunacy. And using the phrase Qatarphobia in your headline is overblown and silly.
I agree with Mehdi! Some of the comments passed on Twitter and radio have been vile. It's one thing to talk about concerns for homophobia but it's quite another to completely rubbish out a country and it's people in the name of 'defending football and gay people'.
I was amused to hear a London radio host yesterday equate England's losing with Qatar's triumph yet the two have nothing to do with each other.
England should concentrate on winning the World Cup - that's the real prize. This false sense of post-Empire entitlement and it's sometime opposite, sometime colluding 'we are the best at human rights in the world image' has got to end. Get over yourselves UK, nobody 'owns' the beautiful game (i.e whinge #1: it's our game, we took it around the world). It's the world's game, I support FIFA wanting to take the games around the planet. Perhaps the Qataris and Russians may learn tolerance and respect for diversity by opening up to the world through sport.
"Germany should insist on having their country shortened to GAY for the q(UEER)tar world cup"
This may actually be a more poignant statement that you realise, as it is strongly rumoured that two of the current German side are gay, although no names to date have been divulged.
Secondly, I think it was a shame that the USA were overlooked. I know they hosted the competition as recently as 94, but I honestly believe that there was a huge potential for getting 'Soccer' on the front page. They only really have one sport over here, their version of football, which is covered fully by the media, whether in College or NFL format. Basketball and Baseball are not as popular as they would have you believe, the stadia are never full and the TV coverage is less all consuming. Given the right promotion, Fifa could have made inroads in this country. The younger generations play proper football at schools, and are now continuing to play it into adult life. There is an ever growing Hispanic population which love the sport. Last year Mexico played Iceland in a friendly in my city, Charlotte, to a sell-out capacity crowd of 70,000. England wouldn't sell out Wembley if Iceland played there.
Next year the NFL players are all going out on strike, it is highly unlikely that a ball is going to be thrown in competition. The time is right to go head first with 'Soccer' coverage, but instead Fifa chose to send a World Cup to Qatar. More fool they. If they really wanted to make football the brand they were talking about, then they have just shot themselves in the foot.
@buckskins
We know, everyone knows, it's been a part of your country's political and cultural 'heritage' for decades.
And I will enjoy, with the rest of the world.
Once again Mehdi lets it slip. Why pretend to be a liberal, but then turn round and say a country banning homosexuality is not much of an issue?
Sorry Medhi, its a victory for fifa's wallets rather than football
Re the comment about the world cup being granted to an anti gay country. Perhaps we should address the distinct lack of openly gay footballers/sports people in our own country and what that says about UK sport first and foremost? I don't agree with Qatar's stance on homosexuality but I think there's more to be said about a country that is supposedly tolerant and accepting of homosexuality but doesn't have a single openly gay person representing us at any sport.
3) "Gay sex is illegal in Qatar, though the authorities don't normally go out of their way to track gay people down...very few gay-related cases have been reported in Qatar."
What are 'gay-related cases' ?? It is totally wrong of FIFA to host in a country were people have to worry about being identified as a 'gay-related case'
Spot on, Mehdi.
Something tells me Qatar will give the World a World Cup tournament they'll never forget.
I see air-conditioned stadiums and marquees. Lots of freebies, free entry to games a possibility. I predict the most hi-tech World Cup ever.
Every advanced geographical region should be given the chance to host the football world cup tournament. Football is the most popular sport on the planet. It brings together people of different race and culture, it breaks down barriers and promotes peace and friendship.
Those who object to Qatar hosting the 2022 Football World Cup do so because they think there will be no alcohol or prostitutes in Qatar-come 2022.
Alcohol-yes. Prostitutes...I doubt it. Bangkok is only 7 hours by air from Doha though ;)
Mehdi, you are such an idealist that you are still loveable. I have lived in the GCC and know Qatar and its traffic jams. It is tiny (600,000 real Qataris), it has no decent infrastructure and its football team is full of 'conscripts' from Kuwait, Yemen, Saudi and Brazil. But that's not the issue - think of the waste; all those billions that will be spent for just a one month football tournament because it is just a desert now. FIFA would argue, that the country is rich and can afford it; but this shows no respect for Qatari youth, nor the environment, nor common sense. For champagne socialists who like to waste billions and corrupt FIFA officials, who cares, party on.......
ps. I won't be going...(too hot). Andy
The decision to give the world cup to Qatar is not in the interests of the global game .Every nation that had hosted a world cup has qualified for previous tournaments : USA 1990 ,South Korea ,1986 ,1990, 1994. Japan had the J league throughout the 1990's .the World game had been developing in Asia and the United States.it was a logical development for world cups to be given to those emerging footballong nations.The United States is one of the greatest sporting nations who correctly were given the 1994 world cup .Russia have a strong sporting pedigree in a number of sports .the Russian league has had enormous investment and the national team had won major international prizes: 1960 , European championships , finalists : 1972 , 1988 , semi-final 2008 . The country had produced to club sides who have won major international prizes and players that have won the prestigious European player of the year award .An outstanding Cv that merits world cup and for the futures development of the game of football.Qatar have know sporting pedigree and have never qualfied for a world cup and have know home grown talent that grace the top leagues in Europe.an Oil rich tiny state that had know connection to football. The tournament will be lacking character because football has know roots in Qatar .stupid decision that needs to be reversed in the interests of a successful tournament. I think it's time terms like Qataphobia were not used to dismiss opponents of Qatar since it's based on football and nothing else.I think it's time The writer learns a bit about football because his argument is poor without facts about sport! England doesn't have a divine right to host s tournament ,but with one of the top leagues in the world and historical connection to the development of the game England deserve their chance to host a tournament which they have not done since 1966. Let the great football nations modernise the way FIFA works which should be the conclusions from what has happened over the past few days .
I'm pretty livid s well. Lets hope that Russia by 2018 can kick racism out of its football and by 2022 Qatar can kick fundamentalist islamists out of the Middle East and we can dispense with sharia and the veil. By giving Russia and Qatar the privilige of hosting the World Cup lets hope we can bring in a bit of liberalisation in these 'conservative' backward countries. Lets all drink to that. Good luck Russia and Qatar. You'll do a brilliant job of hosting and promote responsible clean football.
Look NS is wasting some fat salaries. Mehdi for example. An Islamist to the core, his only contribution is to write Comments on other peoples article although as Edit contribution to NS. Shame.
Because you've quoted one gay, I as another gay, am requried to agree?
I don't care if it came from the supreme God Father of the Gay Agenda, it's grossly offensive. "Limited enforcement" of a law that criminalises gay existence is not a plus, a defence or an excuse.
It is grossly homophobic to criminalise gay people - regardless of whether that law is enforced every week or once or twice a year to make sure gay people shut up and keep their heads down.
But the straight lead world will continue to dismiss homophobia and nationally supported homophobia - as FIFA is doing here - and continue to promote the idea that persecuting us is acceptable
And our rights only become more dismissed when journalists decide that our objections to laws gthat criminalise our existence are "Qatarphobia"
Jouno asked, "What on earth is the point of building all these huge stadiums there when there is no one to sit in them?"
I think Qatar was an eccentric choice but then again, I don't give a monkeys about football.
Back to your point. After the World Cup is over many of the stadia will be dismantled and re-erected in Third World countries. This is mentioned in this BBC report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9252194.stm (about a minute in).
Being a Football fan, am I the first? posting on here, I don't think we should have got the World Cup because we've already staged it, the other choice however is a disgrace.
Qatar has no Football Clubs, no Stadiums and no fans but they do have the dosh to "persuade" FIFA.
It should have gone to the Aussies. The USA has already staged it.
Buckskins, there is nothing more girly than a bunch of men playing Rounders or another bunch of men trying to imitate Rugby but using bodyamour to protect themselves and calling that rubbish sport but then what would you know about it!
The fact of the matter is this was not a win for new innovation, or technology but a win for oil money. For a sport to go in the direction of oil money is never a good idea. Just look at formula 1, both of the worst races were in the middle east and only there because of oil money. Please Medhi, can you not understand the anger from a country that was the birthplace for football and upholds it's values to lose to an unfair voting system to russia (Jean Todt reminding the commite of media influence just before they voted) and then insult to injury to give the 2022 world cup on the basis of financial interests (oil money) instead of the one who upholds football values. I'm usually a great admirer of your writing Mehdi but in this case I 100% disagree with you.
"I'm fed up of the reaction to...". The correct written English is actually "I'm fed up WITH the reaction to.....".
Mehdi Hasan, my post is as much a pointless waste of composition time as your drivel.
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