UAF Violence

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/8488720.Protester_sentenced_for_attack/

Now post one recent BNP violent act.

I wouldn't give Gove credit for anything; it's a matter of commonsense. The teaching of BNP beliefs has no place in our schools and therefore any teacher who is seen to be promoting any of the appalling BNP values should be dismissed for misconduct.

Teachers have a right to their own beliefs but they should never influence those they teach. Gove is just trying to side with a populist view because come election time, this lot are going to need all the votes they can get. He would be better concentrating his efforts on ways of funding decent school buildings.

Thanks Lou! Been away and then absolutely up to my eyes in it with our new contract starting soon, plus writing endless appeal submissions! This coalition certainly keeps me busy!

Thinkov, very witty but many a true word said.

Nick, sorry to say this but things can only get worse with this lot and you're sadly going to get a lot busier.

David,(14.25)Gove did not say just the BNP, he said he would extend it to all groups that had an extremist tenor. And it's not about banning anyone, it's about being able to dismiss people - extremists of all colours - whose personal beliefs lead to unprofessional conduct in their work place or environment.

Just to re-mind you all,we still have scores of Police officers,Prison officers,fire service personnel,and service people in the party.YES WE ARE EVERYWHERE.

Unlikely I know but I wish the press would start to describe UAF, SWP etc. organisations for what they really stand for instead of calling them anti-fascists.
"Far left extremist thugs" who have their own political agenda would be best suited. A bit of research on some of these so called anti- fascists would quickly reveal the type of unsavoury characters we are dealing with. Compared to BNP members these are in a vile group all of their own.

a good start ... a good path to the catastrophy .

@Joesph Walsh do not split hairs. I am talking about all EXTREMISTS not just religious extremeists but all extremists and I see the BNP as an extremist political party, extremists come from every walk of life religious or not. On an application form you are sometimes asked about political or religious affiliations and I was saying sometimes it's easier to root out one extremist but not another. Geddit?

Much as it pains me, credit to Mr Gove is due. I would like to know if this same right will extend to EDL members too who are equally as pernicious as the BNP.

since 2008 when their membership list was uploaded for a reason this racist klan have imploded and shown how divisive they are.it is immoral to allow bigots to be in places of influence.we can never eradicate racists but we must try,otherwise our nation will always have INSTITIONLIZED RACISM flourishing without been checked.it also sends a message to many like myself that we ethnics are been fully listened to.finally this will start the process of a more equal society.i praise ALL politicians who speak out against racism,it's time ALL political parties seriously realise it's time to ban or make it illegal to have race as a voting weapon,immigration must be debated but ethnics like myself born n breed here will then believe we are fully excepted for what we are HUMAN BEINGS.i may clash with mr gove on many issues politically but on this subject i agree wholeheartly with him.too many politicians are fearful in standing up and stating bnp are racist because they fear a backlash when it comes to elections.WE MUST REUNITE OR CONTINUE DOWN A PATH OF RACE RIOTS.cohesion is required to make our nation great again.UNITED KINGDOM WE STAND,LEAD BY EXAMPLE FOR OTHER NATIONS TO FOLLOW OUR LOGICAL STANCE.PEACE N UNITY LEADS TO HARMONY FOR ALL WORLDWIDE

Free speech must be universal. To prevent someone from entering a profession because of what they think is thoughtcrime, pure and simple. It is wrong and we should be ashamed of Michael Gove's authoritarian stance.

If using a school laptop to post comments describing some immigrants as "filth" is undesirable, then will the NS crack down on similar comments from the racist/anti-Muslim trolls who regularly post on this site?

Gaz,
Your link is related to an EDL march not a BNP one. There are several recent examples of EDL violence which I won't link because you won't be interested anyway in anything that contradicts your point....whatever that point may be.

You wanted a post on a recent BNP violent act? How about June 2010

http://liveraf.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/peter-tierney-guilty

I thought Pete Tierny was the guy who was attacked and his only actions were in defending himself. Whatever,but there have been examples of first strike violence on BNP members unreported by the MSM, improperly investigated by the Police, and - even where a strong case has been made- sabotaged by the corrupt CPS and its deliberately losing or holding back crucial evidence until timeout.In any case it remains to be seen whether these witchhunts will actually work in ridding schools of racism. Surely the old saying 'keep your enemies close' made a lot more sense than this vindictive piece of crap.

'The Lives Of Others'.
COMING TO A TOWN NEAR YOU.

Lou: would say a man using a school computer to post vitriolic comments about immigrants being savage animals is a breach of contract,

Must have been a Micky Mouse comic you were reading that day. Aint nothing like what I read.

Lou: if he wants to write that crap,then he should use his own computer and not compromise one belonging to the school.

If it had been an Islamic extremist, rather than a white racist or a BNP memberthe case would not even have reached court in the first place. And you know it - as does Medhi Hussain. Because the same teacher who walked in on Mr Walkers computer would have just walked away if it had been an Islamic nutter. Time and time again we have seen these double standards in favour of Muslims and to the detriment of
Whites/Christian and English. Sorry if it all sounds kind of like another 'They're all out to get me cos I'm white' rants. But we have seen it too many times now for it to be easily dismissed as such.

It happens alright.

I don't think this is about banning BNP members from being teachers, it's about the ability to dismiss them should they abuse their position as the example in the article mentions.

I agree they have a right to their own opinion and as such cannot be excluded from certain jobs but they can't abuse their position by promoting their own beliefs and therfore it is right that they can be dismissed for crossing that line.

An Empire Loyalist taught one of our children at primary school. This was in the seventies - pre-Thatcher. He was also something of a cold war warrior. His pupils seemed to be aware of his political views. They were also wary of getting on the wrong side of him. In his book, the Soviet Union was the bete-noir. In a general science lesson this teacher asked the question -"What form of life could survive in a radio-active world?" Our daughter, under prompting. responded - "The Russians!" The answer he expected was - 'a snail'. The politics must have seeped through the lesson material but had unintended consequences Owing to this teacher's hortatory delivery other teachers could not avoid overhearing this interactive session between teacher and pupil. In any event, look at the Soviet Union, the Tea Baggers etc. Wait, forgot about the Bankers - everyone's a free-loader! Propaganda does work - sometimes. Provided the voters are dumb enough!
Jesuit

Blimey, I never thought I'd see the day when I would concur with Gove, but yes, credit where credit is due.

Amendment to 21:26 post.

UAF, Hope Not Hate, Searchlight, SWP are all affiliated and linked somehow to the same people. Msrs Smith and Mr Bennett, all cited by the Police, and named with these groups. Sorry for any confusion.

Gloating tosser. Before the third world colonisation this was a democratic country with no history of banning political parties. Not even Oswald Mosley was banned outright. So now you're satisfied, what next? How about we ban all extremists including those who follow certain extremsit aspects of the Islamic faith. Hey, what about the King Fahid school in Acton -where was your article on the findings there? You know, where they found the the text books stating Jews were little more than pigs. I also dont see gangs of 'BNP kids' with screensavers on thier phones glorifying violence - knowotimean - hypocrite?

And that happens now is you will not know who to suspect and who not to because the 'racists' will just carry on but underground while the BNP will gain even more suppport.

Dave (of the free UK) Smith

Gloating tosser. Before the third world colonisation this was a democratic country with no history of banning political parties. Not even Oswald Mosley was banned outright. So now you're satisfied, what next? How about we ban all extremists including those who follow certain aspects of the Islamic faith. Hey, what about the King Fahid school in Acton -where was your article on the findings there? You know, where they found text books stating Jews were little more than pigs. I also dont see gangs of 'BNP kids' with screensavers on their phones glorifying violence - knowotimean - hypocrite?

All that happens now is you will not know who to suspect and who not to because the 'racists' will just carry on but underground while the BNP will gain even more suppport.

Dave (of the free UK) Smith

Corrected - 'I think'.

i think mr gove should also include these vile far left lecturers and teachers who have been praising the violence at these student demos in his list of extremists who should be banned from teaching,this far left marxist and communist agenda must not be taught in the classrooms

@David, I agree with you! I am glad Gove has introduced this policy but the policy itself should not be discrimatory. If membership of the BNP is banned then the extremist Muslim views should be banned too, all extremist views should be banned, but therin lies the problem. How are schools to know if someone is a Muslim extremist? If asked for their religious faith on an application form they will just put Muslim; not Muslim extremist! If someone says on their application that they are a member of the BNP then it is surely easier to root them out. Look, my view is that there should be no religious faith schools because they could harbour extremists of any faith. Keep religion at home and in church, synagogues, and mosques and keep the state secular. :-)

p.s. For the record and stated earlier, I don't agree with banning anyone but I do agree with the right to dismiss someone for unprofessional conduct which is what this article relates to.

I cited the BNP case because a commenter asked for an example.

I dislike the BNP but i don't think they should be banned from teaching. Let's face it Labour were sounding BNP to me at the last election by saying British jobs for British people.
Hitler was able to shape German youth but the majority didn't quite believe him. The young are impressionable but the likes of the BNP and the Nazis are going to be members of that party whether they are introduced them to when young or old.

no hypocrisy, and will muslim teachers who belong to hate filled racist organistions who preach hatred and racism against non muslims be included in this banned list,i would not want my children to be taught by any of these islamo fascist race haters and gove better sort out his list quick and include all extremists whether white or brown in his banned from teaching list,as for gove if anybody looked like a commie, boy he sure does fit the frame.