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Why Muslims must speak out against terrorism

I’m afraid we have to be at the forefront of “Not in our name” campaigns, whether we like it or not.

In 2007, the American Muslim writer and activist Ali Eteraz wrote, on the Huffington Post site:

The amount of disinformation about Muslims is disconcerting. One popular smear is that Muslims are in an alliance with the left to take over the west; it is an allegation that the far right loves to use.

The other, equally popular and equally absurd, idea is that Muslims do not condemn terrorism. This too makes its way into culture from the right (though judging by comments to my last post, it's diffused to some members of the left). Though it is subtler, and argues from insinuation, it is no less pernicious. The implication is that every Muslim in the world who doesn't engage in terrorism is nevertheless a latent supporter, or enabler, of terrorism because he doesn't make loud proclamations against it.

He's right, of course. It is nonsensical and offensive to pretend that Muslims who are silent about terrorist atrocities carried out by other Muslims are somehow implicated in those acts or approve of them. In such cases, silence does not equal consent.

But, in recent years, I have come to the view that Muslims need to speak out much more than we already do against terrorism and violence committed in the name of Islam. Not because "non-Muslims" or "the west" or "the government" expect us to, but because we should be outraged, indignant, frustrated and angry at the level to which some of our fellow Muslims -- a tiny minority, I hasten to add! -- have stooped, and the manner in which they have tarnished the good name of Islam, the Quran and the Prophet.

I used to argue, like Eteraz and others, that we shouldn't have to speak out or condemn Muslim terrrorism because of the blatant double standard: why weren't Hindus asked to condemn the behaviour of the RSS in India? Why weren't Catholics asked to condemn the actions of the IRA? Why the singling out of Muslims?

But the double standard argument is, I believe, now irrelevant. We're not in the playground. Who cares what others have to do, are expected to do or are asked to do? Let's just focus on what we should be doing -- and I believe Muslims should be speaking out and protesting against Muslim atrocities with as much zeal and passion and anger as we do against, say, the Israeli occupation of the West Bank or the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq.

In the past few weeks, Muslims across the world have been outraged by the Israeli blockade of Gaza and the botched raid on the Turkish aid flotilla, which killed nine activists. In contrast, we have been largely silent about the horrific violence in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan -- which, let's face it, is neither Islamic nor a republic -- where 93 people were killed in gun and grenade attacks on two Ahmadi mosques in Lahore and where, on Friday, 42 people were killed in a terroist attack on one of the country's best-known Sufi shrines (also in Lahore).

What does that say about our priorities?

I am not arguing that Israeli atrocities or US war crimes should be ignored or forgotten. Not at all. But I am saying that brutal, cold-blooded attacks on religious shrines, which kill dozens of innocent people in the middle of prayer, in a nation that describes itself as "Islamic", should disgust and dismay every single believing Muslim.

If we care about our faith -- its purity, its identity, its reputation -- we have to speak out and condemn acts of terror committed by fellow Muslims in the name of Islam. We have to declare, as we did as British citizens over the Iraq war in 2003, "Not in our name."

65 comments

Muhammed's picture

Islam does ALLOW jihad in the form of fighting,As you are so knowledgeable and well versed in the Qur'an then I am sure you will find what conditions permit jihad.
Mehdi Hasan's D, You are quite correct only muslims demand "entitlements" I suppose Sikhs,jews,bhuddists,christians don't have to demand "entitlements".

Des Demona's picture

Muhummad - I've come to the conclusion that you are either 9 years old or an idiot. Good night and good luck.

Muhammed's picture

Don't switch off the light's eh des, There may be a mullah behind you!

jie4v7i14's picture

Acts of terrorism is a symptom of a disease, and the disease is oil and all their consequences.

Man, any man, is a stable creature, unless he gets provoct. Bomb them pisstaking bitches, why not, if means came to must!

lucidnitram's picture

Mehdi, you're quite right about Jordan, Black September, and the Iran/Iraq war. Let's remember that the USA was right behind the aggressor in both cases.

Call me crazy, but...

Des Demona's picture

Ahhh, so it's idiot then.

CrISpY DuCk's picture

Mehdi I think that by penning this article you've admitted that there's a problem to be addressed.
I'm just an ordinary bloke with no preconceptions and without a racist/religiously bigoted bone in my body and yet I think that there is a problem too.

"The other, equally popular and equally absurd, idea is that Muslims do not condemn terrorism. This too makes its way into culture from the right (though judging by comments to my last post, its diffused to some members of the left). Though it is subtler, and argues from insinuation, it is no less pernicious. The implication is that every Muslim in the world who doesn't engage in terrorism is nevertheless a latent supporter, or enabler, of terrorism because he doesn't make loud proclamations against it."

I'm afraid I disagree.On countless news programs/discussion programs in the wake of 9/11 I watched educated and seemingly decent muslims squirm like politicians and do anything rather than condem these attacks.
Now I'm sure you will be able to post links to contradict me but I have to say that this is the impression I and other non racist/bigoted people were left with.I applaud your stand and hope others follow as the lack of condemnation is as sickening as the demonising of all muslims by sections of the popular press in my eyes.
If I an open minded non bigot thinks this way then how do the brainwashed think ?
You are right to speak out let's hope other prominent muslims follow your lead.

nasir's picture

Excellent article - the plight of the ahmadi muslims in Pakistan is very sad. The government of Pakistan needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

Mohammad of Memphis's picture

This message is for Mehdi Hasan, im not sure if u will recive this or not, but I really need some in sight of some things going on here, if you could please e mail me or get back with me some how. I am an American citizen married to a muslim man, I read your article and think you can help me. please.

Des Demona's picture

Whatever strange maladjusted kick you get out of pretending to be a muslim supporting jihad against the west, to do so on the anniversary of 7/7 is beneath contempt. Luckily trolls like you will never be the death of true debate.
Who knows, when you grow up a little you might reflect on this.

Muhammed's picture

des demona understand one thing the countries which engage in killing innocent men,women and children on a daily basis are america and britain.State backed terrorism on a daily basis.
When the likes of you accept this and condemn this then maybe muslims would be more willing to join you in speaking out against terrorism.
As many muslims would agree bush,blair and the current regimes of the west are no different to bin laden and his western trained army.
Everyone is aware of the rules of engagement in Islam so why should we continually repeat ourselves to please the likes of you?Do you honestly think muslims do not hurt at the killings mentioned in the article?Who do we condemn in pakistan it is a civil war.
Regards my attempts to "convert" you,I would simply say you are very mistaken.

Des Demona's picture

Muhammed - if you read my post you would see that I was on the streets along with thousands of other non-muslims protesting against the invasion of Iraq. I condemned it then and I condem it now. Luckily I live in a country where I can protest against the actions of the Government.

However you seem to keep completely missing the point of Mehdi's article. Every day we hear of different Muslim sects blowing each other up and other innocent victims. What's not to condemn?

What do you mean 'to please the likes of you'

Are you as racist?

the_pair's picture

agreed. and americans should speak out against voracious capitalism and the damage it does via wars, economic terrorism and environmental disasters. and jews should speak out against zionism. and christian clergy should speak out against child abuse.

while i agree with you 100%, i doubt it will do any good. there really is no way to appease the right without full and total capitulation.

Daniel's picture

I completely agree! Great wee post

salil's picture

You are right in saying that Muslims need not be forced to speak out against terror committed in their name. But you are also right in saying it is a good idea for Muslims to speak out. The point is that it should be an individual's choice, and not forced. Incidentally, many of us asked Hindus to speak out against atrocities committed in Gujarat.

You are again right in pointing out the apparent silence of many Muslims who protest the situation in Gaza for saying nothing when there are attacks in Pakistan. Shall I take it a step further? In each case - Gaza and Pakistan - the victims are largely Muslims. Why not express outrage when Muslims attack non-Muslims, too? as in Bangladesh? or India? And to take it even further, in the end, shouldn't we all condemn all acts of terrorism, whoever commits them, and whoever might be the victim? Ethnicity, language, religion, are often inherited/acquired traits, or groups in which we are born. Emerging out of such straitjackets isn't easy - the simplest route, then, is to believe in genuine equality, and condemn all acts of terror. Sounds naive and idealist - and maybe that's the point.

lucidnitram's picture

More importantly, ALL citizens of the West should speak out in condemnation of the terrorist attacks that have been and continue to be committed in our names.

Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Vietnam, Fallujah, Palestine, Afghanistan.

The only moral difference between Islamic terrorism and Western state terrorism is that the former is puny by comparison.

1R4M's picture

For once I disagree with you

Why should we have to apologise for the actions of some idiots?
PLENTY of Muslims come out and condemn the actions of extremists, wht else can we do??

sometimes, it doesnt matter if we present forward evidence that shows Islam is a peaceful religion because at the end of the day people will believe what they want to believe

KB Player's picture

I heard you on a programme about the 7/7 bombers anticipating that next time something like that happened the reaction of non-Muslims to Muslims in general may not be so mild. I thought you were right and that you are right in this article. The image of Muslims in this country has worsened over the last five years, partly through the activities of eg Anjem Choudary and partly, as you say, through what seems to be a selective anger about outrages against Muslims but not when performed by other Muslims, or by Muslims on non-Muslims. When I see British Asian Muslims jumping up and down about the treatment of the Palestinians by the Israelis, I ask myself whether they would give a toss if most of the Palestinians were Christians instead of Muslims. Choudary and his ilk get publicity way out of proportion to their actual influence and it is unfair that Muslims have to counteract some fairly gross misrepresentation but it would certainly do something to cut the ground from under the feet of the likes of the EDL.

Des Demona's picture

The whole point of terrorism is to enable a tiny minority to weild a massively disproportionate influence. This is of course why Islam gets such negative publicity. The only real way to counteract this is the by the hitherto silent majority's loud and continuous condemnation of these actions.

Muhammed's picture

Most muslim's care more about the thousands of innocent's who have lost their lives and are still being killed due to western forces.
You mass murder muslim's then want us to condemn the relatively few lives you loose.
I wish no lives were lost but let's hear an apology for the illegal war on Iraq or were the victims merely "collateral damage".
If you want rid of terror then just stop interfering with muslim countries. So what if we all kill each other,Is that not what you want.

Muhammed's picture

SAD, That is the only word I can think of to describe you des demona.
Take your accusations and name calling to the school playground where you belong.

Muhammed's picture

As a muslim I condemn all act's of terrorism.
All muslim's in the uk are happy to see muslim's die daily if we can remove the bloodshed from the streets of britain.

go James Go's picture

Medi, why don,t you answer me, why did you make yourself look such a fool on Question time? Why not raise an intellectual argument instead of getting so excited about the opportunity to be destroyed by Hesseltine?

I could have do better than you.

Cllr Ben Howlett.

Des Demona's picture

@ muhammed

It would be good now if someone from the muslim community now posted that you are a bit of a twat.

Des Demona's picture

why would he bother answering you, you twat.

Zayan's picture

We have already spoken out enough about terrorism. I've seen many people rally against terrorism, yet I look in the 'Western' media, and I see this on the 18th page! Our words of condemnation always fall on deaf ears.

Tristan's picture

@ Des Demona

.. or indeed if someone from any community highlighted his penchant for misplaced apostrophes.

1R4M's picture

1R4M - who said anything about "apologising"? I'm not going to apologize for Bin Laden and co but I am going to condemn them, distance myself and my faith from them and publicly proclaim Islam's opposition to the killing of innocent civilians. How dare people blow up mosques or churches or marketplaces and then claim that they do so in the name of my faith? I can't stay silent. Sorry. Those people repulse and sicken me...

These ppl sicken me too
but I dont see why I SHOULD keep coming out to condemn them; once is plenty
I dont see other communities having to apologise for the actions of idiots who carry out atrocities in their name

so why Muslims

swatantra's picture

Speaking out is not enough. They need to start weeding out the fanatics from their mosques and communities, informing and working with the police, so that they can be neutred, permanantly. Still a lot lot more they can do.

yousef's picture

@ Des Demona

i think he is a twat...

Des Demona's picture

Thank you Yousef.lol

As Mehdi says in relation to violence between Muslim communities - Not because "non-Muslims" or "the west" or "the government" expect us to, but because we should be outraged, indignant, frustrated and angry at the level to which some of our fellow Muslims - a tiny minority, I hasten to add! - have stooped, and the manner in which they have tarnished the good name of Islam, the Quran and the Prophet.''

Greg3's picture

@mehdi

I take it this conversion was recent?

A few weeks ago I tried to comment on your post where you argued that muslims should not have to condem the small minority of muslims who commit terrorist actions against civillians, just to prove that they are 'against' terrorism in general, as this moral standard is applied to any other faith. My argument was effectively the same as you just made in this post; glad to see you've seen the light!

My complaint is only that after a couple of hours my post was removed by the moderators. How the hell can it be alright for you to make a point but not for someone else to make it?!?

Mehdi Hasan's Doppelganger's picture

Dear Mehdi:

The issue here is not about condemning terrorism committed in the name of Islam. Rather, it is that people such as yourself do not do enough to counter Bin Laden's ideology (to take on example), which is rooted in a lot of traditional theology. Instead, you pretend that Bin Laden et al. are a 'tiny minority' and wild aberrations from Islam similar to David Koresh from Christianity. But that's really not the case, I'm afraid.

For example, in response to Saudi intellectuals who called for dialogue with non-Muslims in the wake of 9/11, Bin Laden wrote:

''Our talks with the infidel West and our conflict with them ultimately revolve around one issue – one that demands our total support, with power and determination, with one voice – and it is: Does Islam, or does it not, force people by the power of the sword to submit to its authority corporeally if not spiritually? Yes. There are only three choices in Islam: either willing submission; or payment of the jizya, through physical though not spiritual, submission to the authority of Islam; or the sword – for it is not right to let him [an infidel] live. The matter is summed up for every person alive: Either submit, or live under the suzerainty of Islam, or die.''

This is, of course, only a reflection of classical, mainstream interpretations of verses such as Qur'an 9:29, which is considered to be the culmination in the development of the doctrine of offensive jihad. That's not to say that Al-Qaeda and others aren't interested in expelling Western forces from Afghanistan and Iraq, inter alios locos, but they do use all this traditional theology to try to recruit Muslims. Indeed, it's still being taught in unrevised form in school textbooks, at Al-Azhar, and many parts of the Muslim world.

Why don't you spend more time trying to organise a mass movement to devise an effective reformed interpretation of core Islamic texts that repudiates these attitudes of jihad and Islamic supremacism?

That would surely be more productive than ranting to us non-Muslims about what the 'real Islam' is (which really isn't for us to determine, but we can tell whether what Bin Laden and others say has a broad tradition to justify it)?

Yours sincerely,

Mehdi Hasan's Doppelganger.

vanrisszcu's picture

Salil - thanks for your comments. You wrote:
"Why not express outrage when Muslims attack non-Muslims, too? as in Bangladesh? or India? And to take it even further, in the end, shouldn't we all condemn all acts of terrorism, whoever commits them, and whoever might be the victim?" Actually, I wrote something similar last August in this blog post:

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/mehdi-hasan/2009/08/muslims-darfur-poi...

1R4M - who said anything about "apologising"? I'm not going to apologize for Bin Laden and co but I am going to condemn them, distance myself and my faith from them and publicly proclaim Islam's opposition to the killing of innocent civilians. How dare people blow up mosques or churches or marketplaces and then claim that they do so in the name of my faith? I can't stay silent. Sorry. Those people repulse and sicken me...

Murimba's picture

Muslims were so well organized, transporting tens of thousands to street demonstrations in cities around the world ---- when the outrage was against Big Satan (the USA) and Small Satan (Israel)....

....But not ONE SINGLE SUCH DEMONSTRATION was ever organized anywhere in the world, tens of thousands of Muslims marching on the streets, denouncing Bin Laden and the attack against innocent civilians on 9/11.

That's a fact that is a big concern to us, Westerners in America, Europe and the rest of the world.........

F.A's picture

Mehdi Hasan, you're becoming a bit of a G in politics. Good work.

Muhammed's picture

1R4M No matter how many times you apologise it just will not be enough.
When we speak out against terrorism in muslim countries we are labelled "al-qaeda" sympathisers.
When you speak out against the loss of innocent lives of children and women at the hands of american and nato forces we are accused of treason,Showing contempt for the loss of british life.
Many are against the illegal wars but that does not mean we support terrorism. Sorry to disappoint the likes of des demona.

steven green's picture

The media is not interested in the moderate muslim, the media is only interested in anjum choudry and his 40 or so crazy followers, it sickens me the muslim population in the uk numbers about 2 million the majority of them are law abiding citizens, but yet the media refuses to give them a platform all we ever get to hear about or see is the few rotten apples, media has got a very big part to play in this their trying to brain wash the masses to hate muslims, i am yet to meet a muslim who dont condemn with the harshest words the terroist atrocitys being commited in there good name, take for example the bias reporting by the media about what happened on that flotilla we only got to see the IDF version of events, commando's storming a ship in international waters carrying aid with civillians on board but yet these people on board were turned in to terroists by the media, israel gets away with murder again the muslims are suffering alot of injustices and its become acceptable....

Muhammed's picture

We are killed in the hundreds of thousands yet we have to condemn terrorists,The only terrorist I will speak out against are those bearing american and nato uniforms.
des demona bush and blair are "twats".
Islam treats women as second class citizens we are constantly told,Then we see the likes of these posters showing how respect should be given to women.
Hypocrites

Mehdi Hasan's Doppelganger's picture

Dear Muhammed:

''Mehdi Hasan's D you continue to believe in the myth that mujahideen are crazy people intent on converting the world to islam like some crazed zombies.''

Oh, so when Osama Bin Laden states that his goal is to subdue, convert, or kill non-Muslims, he doesn't actually mean it? Of course, Bin Laden's more immediate concern is to establish his dream Khilafa that cn take on the entire world, but any attacks that strike terror into the heart of the infidels (such as 9/11, the 1993 WTC bombing etc.) are justified to expand the realm of Dar Al-Islam.

''Regards jihad I believe if I lived in palestine then jihad should be waged on Israel as well as in afghanistan,somalia,and every other country where america is interfering or propping up puppet governments.''

Right, and when you wage jihad on Israel, what would your goal be? To eliminate Israel and end any form of Jewish sovereignity in Dar Al-Islam? Do you believe Israel has any right to exist? I'm sure you don't want to kill all its inhabitants, but it appears you would like to destroy it.

By the way, America is not ''propping up'' a ''puppet government'' in Somalia. The present Somali government, which has little authority, is just not Islamic enough for you, is it? Tell me, what do you make of Ash-Shabaab's jihad? A jihad that includes, inter alia, bombing civilians intentionally, pulling out gold teeth from residents, murdering aid workers and apostates from Islam. Ash-Shabaab even tried to murder Kurt Westergaard for drawing a picture of Mohammed.

Whilst I don't support propping up Karzai's corrupt regime and favour a major change in strategy in Afghanistan, the jihad being waged there (and which you support) is simply appalling. What do you make of the Taliban's poison gas attacks on girls' schools, use of human shields, suicide bombings against innocent civilians? Yes, the coalition forces there have killed many Afghan civilians by mistake, but nothing comparable to those who wage the jihad there. By the way, please don't go into a long rambling disquisition about ''defensive jihad'', as the Taliban, ash-Shabaab et al. all characterise the struggle to establish the supremacy of Shari'a in Muslim lands as defensive.

''Being a resident of britain my jihad is quite different to those fighting say in palestine,My sword is the mighty pen.''

How cute! You are engaged in jihad al-kalam! Well, Muhammed, I never said that jihad only takes the form of warfare with guns and knives or only has one meaning, but its prmary aim, as understood through centuries of Islamic tradition, is to remove all obstacles to the dominance of Dar Al-Islam over the entire world, usually by warfare. This is done in the West primarily through Dawa campaigns. Thank you for exposing yourself as part of this movement to subvert Britain from within through stealth jihad.

''Your understanding of the Qur'an is quite frankly very limited.I bet you could not even find the verse explaining how to perform salaat the most important form of prayer every muslim performs 5 times a day.''

Why should I care how a Muslim prays? That's a private matter that doesn't concern me. In any case, I can point you to 73:20, which tells a Muslim to recite a portion of the Qur'an ''so much as is feasible'' during each ruk'a. Also, I was merely shedding light on the traditional theology jihadists use to justify their actions. If you think their understanding of the Qur'an is limited, take it up with them, not me, as I have never even said that their interpretation is correct (not for me to decide anyway), only that it has a strong traditional grounding.

Cordially,
Mehdi Hasan's Doppelganger.

tomhagen's picture

Mehdi

You write:

I believe Muslims should be speaking out and protesting against Muslim atrocities with as much zeal and passion and anger as we do against, say, the Israeli occupation of the West Bank or the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq.

I don't mean this to come across as a 'clash of civilizations' response to your quote, but I would point out that terrorism carried out by Muslims kills proportionally less people than either the US led invasion of Iraq or Western backed atrocities carried out by Israel.

Whilst all terrorism is wrong, our discourse makes us scale each atrocity according to the number of statistically dead and injured. On that basis a million dead in Iraq, scores in Afghanistan and the a genocide of attrition carried out by Israel in Palestine will, inevitably and justifiably, attract much more "zeal and passion and anger" than some of the other terrorist crimes you mentioned.

Finally, attacks in Pakistan are seen as a domestic issue carried out by domestic terrorists. The fact that more Muslims condemn the west is due to the bellicose and quasi-imperialist foreign policies of such governments that are, in theory, supposed to be more rational and peace-loving than non-state actors.

steven green's picture

Theres a witch hunt going on against muslims and its going to get a lot worser, they are part to blame they've sleep walked in to this ambush, they need to start lobbying there MP's, they need to get more involved in the PR game and stop letting islamaphobes like Melanie Phillips, Kelvin Mckenzie, Fraser Nelson, Douglas Murray get away with the crap they get away with, Geert Wilders gets the red carpet treatment were as scholars like Dr Zakir Naik get banned from entering the country weres the justice in that...

Roshan's picture

Muslims speak out against "Muslim" terrorism every day, but no one wants to listen.

go James Go's picture

Instead of making yourself look stupid on Question time and being swatted like a fly, why don't you try and say something intelligent on TV?

swatantra's picture

Thats odd. I must be going deaf. The condemnation must come loud and often. Followed by concerted action to remove these deranged individuals from the decent peace loving Muslim community.

Des Demona's picture

@mohammed

Yes it was an ad homninem attack but you pretty much deserved it. The thrust of Mehdi's argument was that Muslims blowing up anyone in the name of Islam should be condemned. For you to intimate that 'we' are quite happy to see Muslims killing each other goes back to the playground debating Mehdi referred to.

As far as apologising for anything - that was never mentioned in his article. But if you want to get into that - how about you apologise for 9/11, which predates the invasion of Iraq, (which I personally took to the streets to oppose along with thousands of other non-muslims) and I'll apologise for the Crusades?

Alternatively we could move on out of the playground and simply agree with Mehdi's position that in Islam there is no place for those who kill innocent civillians in mosques churches and markets in the name of religion?

Des Demona's picture

P.S

What the hell has posters of women got to do with the article? Clearly your agenda is to proselytize rather than debate logically. In which case I go back to my original opinion. Are you one of those twats that approached me at Shepherds Bush station a few nights ago and called me an Islamaphobe because when after trying to convert me I said I didn't buy anything on street corners, least of all religion?

Muhammed's picture

des demona you went on a march how great.
Regards the article and your point about muslim on muslim killing, Where exactly have you heard muslims condone or even encourage such atrocities?Have you attented a masjid where every day prayers are said for those affected by such attacks?
Or do we have to shout aloud in the streets and condemn such incidents?
"The likes of you" I am referring to those who think like you do.
Creating divisions among muslims is what america does all the time,Iraq,afghanistan,iran,somalia the list is endless.We muslims realise this is what causes muslims to fight each other.My view is any muslim who encourages or joins a foreign army to kill other muslims is very wrong.
If america and her poodles stop interfering in muslim countries propping up evil leaders then you will see an end to terrorism but this is not a scenario the western governments will allow.

Muhammed's picture

Mehdi Hasan's D you continue to believe in the myth that mujahideen are crazy people intent on converting the world to islam like some crazed zombies.
Regards jihad I believe if I lived in palestine then jihad should be waged on Israel as well as in afghanistan,somalia,and every other country where america is interfering or propping up puppet governments.
Being a resident of britain my jihad is quite different to those fighting say in palestine,My sword is the mighty pen.
One thing you will never see in the western world is muslims taking aim with machine guns and battle tanks supported by warplanes destroying a people unlike americans in muslim countries.
We come in peace you on the other hand come with guns pointing at our heads.
Your understanding of the Qur'an is quite frankly very limited.I bet you could not even find the verse explaining how to perform salaat the most important form of prayer every muslim performs 5 times a day.
Don't preach the Qur'an to those who have it in their hearts.

vanrisszcu's picture

tomhagen - I agree with much of what you wrote and, as I said in the post, I don't mean to excuse western atrocities in Iraq or Afghanistan (read my blog, you'll see I'm always critiquing and condemning our foreign wars). But I don't think attacks in Pakistan can be dismissed as a "domestic" issue when the actors involved claim to be acting in the name of Islam (i.e. my faith and those of millions of others across the planet). Oh, and while I am passionately opposed to, and repulsed by, Israeli aggression and state-backed terror operations against Palestinians in the Occupied Territories, I have to point out to you that Jordan, for example, killed far more Palestinians in Black September than the Israelis did in Operation Cast Lead in Gaza, and more Muslims died during the Iran-Iraq war than during the invasion of Iraq. As I said, that doesn't excuse western crimes or atrocities, but the world is not as black and white as some of my Muslim brethren might suggest.

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