This is deeply unsettling. Mehdi?

Dear me, how quick to label. I was genuinely shocked at the link. I agree that the quotes from Mehdi knocked the thread off topic. What evidence do you have have to label me a Zionist, let alone a Islamaphobe? The fact that I naively request a response from Mehdi regarding the quote makes me this? I can't even be bothered to rebuff in detail. Anyone who can chuck labels like that around with no evidence ain't worth it. You sanctimonious saddos,"Am I the only one who refuses to trade in humanity for patriotism" - excuse me? xx

John, Barny and Steve, yes Mehdi Hasan is undoubtedly a sanctimonious gobshite that has said an awful lot of nasty stuff about non-muslims... as an atheist and homo it's not nice to know that he would view me as a lot worse than simply a silly cow.
Nevertheless, you must surely agree that Hasan's obnoxious views in no way justify the horrors that the Israeli army are inflicting on the Palestinians?

because these are classic tactics of zionist islamaphobes, when ever a some one exposes isreal the zionist islamaphobes quickly dig around and try to slander and tarnish the person who put this information out there ' dont mess with israel ' other wise your reputation or carrer will be on the line, whats this attack on medi got to do with the above video i see it all the time israels got its attack dogs every were...

Rob, I absolutely agree, I just find Mehdi talking from the moral highground on religious issues very ironic

The tapes merely confirm what has been pretty obvious for many years. The Jewish lobby in the US (and UK) is very powerful and ensures uncritical support and financing for Israel's illegal land grab and its despicable treatment of the Palestinians. With the odd exception, such as Robert Fisk, journalists in the West buy-in to this disgusting programme and so the horrors inflicted on the Palestinians are ignored or are reported as a fair response to suicide bombers, etc. O Israel that you are doing such things is so profoundly distressing ...have you learnt nothing from the terrors your own people had to endure?

Rob:
Fair comment.I have nothing to add.

Mehdi completely suppresses the context in which Bibi’s comments were made, in the year 2002.

At that time the Palestinians had treacherously reneged on the agreement to negotiate a peaceful resolution to the conflict. The Palestinians had rejected the generous Barak/Beilin proposals, and refused to make any counterproposals. And the Palestinians had embarked on a campaign of bombings and killings directed at Israeli civilians, especially women and children, which were eventually to take many hundreds of lives and cause thousands to be wounded and maimed.

Bibi was rightly angry, and gave vent to those feelings in a relatively restrained manner considering the enormity of the Palestinian crimes.

Lets have a look at this speech
for balance....

Speech by Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad of Malaysia at the OIC

....The Muslims will forever be oppressed and dominated by the Europeans and the Jews. They will forever be poor, backward and weak. Some believe, as I have said, this is the Will of Allah, that the proper state of the Muslims is to be poor and oppressed in this world.......

The enemy (the Jews)will probably welcome these proposals and we will conclude that the promoters are working for the enemy. But think. We are up against a people who think. They survived 2000 years of pogroms not by hitting back, but by thinking.

They invented and successfully promoted Socialism, Communism, human rights and democracy.....

so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong,

so they may enjoy equal rights with others.

With these they have now gained control of the most powerful countries and they, this tiny community, have become a world power.

We cannot fight them through brawn alone. We must use our brains also."

The speech was very well received by the delegates, including many high ranking politicians, who responded with standing ovations.

International, non-Muslim reactions, however, were appalled. "We view them with contempt and derision," said the US State Department, and the foreign minister of Italy, the current chair of the European Union, called the incident "gravely offensive".

I am sure you will dismiss these criticisms as paranoid islamophobic rantings!

excelent tactic to divert out attention from the above article, slaughter medi accuse him of being a anti-semite and a hate preacher, you zionist islamaphobes are just great man...

I hope you will all be particularly sanctimonious and condemn with equal ferocity that which Britain has been doing in Afghanistan for the past 9 years.
And of course, Damn those zionist islamophobes from linking that video of Mehdi Hasan comparing the kuffar to cattle...wait, that's you too.

if anybody tried to blockade our coast and our airspace, if anybody flew
spy planes over us, if anybody blew up one of our nuclear installations,
if anybody ruled our lives at gunpoint and built foreign settlements on
our land, we’d kill whoever we had to kill to stop it.'' | Israeli
...Jerusalem post 07/15/2010...

The truth is often the first casualty of any war - The War of Terror in Afghanistan has been a primer about media control and manipulation. What was supposed to be a clean operation has turned into a war of attrition - what is shown to us the viewer back home is of a clean, almost surgical like efficiency in dealing with "insurgents", "taliban" and "Al-CIAda".

I put these into brackets simple because any civilian deaths are marked off as being resistance fighters belonging to one of any of these self created factions that are used to terrorise us back in "The West", the uber bogeyman if you will.

There will be plenty of recrimination for WikiLeaks, I'm sure they will be attacked, accused and smeared by the military industrial complex for putting our soldiers lives at risk by publishing this data. The fact that WikiLeaks boss Julian Assange has been on the run for the last few months from the American Army should tell you how seriously pissed off the Army is.

This past Friday, 45 Afghani civilians were murdered in a botched NATO air strike.

The self righteous media always extols its virtues of human rights yet fall deadly silent in their condemnation of their own leadership.

This subservient form of reporting in which the media swallow the government line and will not report on the deaths of Afghan civilians, or it is reported almost as an after thought, as this will harm the war effort back home.

Am I the only one who refuses to trade in humanity for patriotism?

Have a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhPeyxJ7vGU