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The real problem with sensationalising misogyny is that misogyny is not sensational.
Larsson depicts Salander's enemies as cruel monsters, and Salander as a brave goth/ninja/hacker. Penny's post reminded me of Samuel L. Jackson in "Unbreakable", when he explains that superheroes and supervillains are an exaggeration of real life. In the other two Milennium stories Salander's enemies become even more cartoon-like or supervillain-like.
I think Penny is right, but there is more danger in those books/movies that depict a woman's freedom as carelessness. Like the "Manic Pixie Dream Girls" in romantic comedies, or La Maga (from Cortazar's "Hopscotch"). Many women in Latin America indentify (that happened in the sixties and keeps happening) with La Maga because they think of her as a liberated woman's role model. But La Maga is just careless, and a little loony, just like the Manic Pixie Dream Girls in romcoms. They are some guy's dream girl, not a role model. Even if Salander is an exaggeration, a goth-ninja-swedish-hacker who fights back makes a better role model than a careless loony. As long as the readers understand she is an exaggeration of real people and real problems.
Pardon my english.
i was just thinking 8 minutes ago,if i left my girlfreind and then embraced islam as a religion i could could have 4 girlfreinds or wifes and unlimited shagging,but i better research this because can i drink,gamble and smoke da weed and still be a good muslim convert,if there is any muslim men in here who do have 4 wives am i on the right track into converting into your religion.
you're a fu&cking idiot.
turn off the computer, back away from the desk, head towards the door, and go outside and get a life.
now that's a good little girl...
@tamsinchan: Excellent! :-)
Thank you for a clear, thoughtful article. I appreciate the questions you're asking, especially in light of how the Millenium trilogy is sweeping through pop culture.
sounds like alex ain't getting none that's for sure..
'And speaking as a woman who will often see a hot fella in the street and will further make a sexual comment about him to whomever I'm with, does not make me a misandrist. It means I just like what I see'
Ahhh thank you. Some common sense amidst the dognmatic ranting.
While it may be that a rapist is otherwise 'normal' the fact that he is a rapist is in itself an abnormality. Clearly there is something in his psyche that overides all conscience and convention. That is NOT the normal state for the vast majority of men for whom no means no.
To understand why there is rape in society has no doubt been the subject of various thesis, probably along the same lines as what makes a serial killer.
When you say ' Hardly anyone actually justifies rape, they just say that this one wasn't rape. They'll find reasons why the victim was to blame,.....'
'Most casual internet misogynists would probably never rape anyone, but they splutter out all kinds of social conventions where desire gets to override refusal.'
... then I think you are generalising in such a way that I can't really engage in debate other than to say I don't know anyone who attempts to justify rape. Perhaps a rapist does but their view is hardly relevent.
Ted Bundy wasn't a consumer of porn, violent or otherwise. That myth grew out of the last interview he gave to Dr. James Dobson, founder of Christian Evangelical organization Focus On The Family. Dobson used Bundy to reinforce his anti-porn message, and Bundy, obviously a highly manipulative character, knew that he'd get a sympathetic interview by telling Dobson what he wanted to hear.
Extensive research by investigators into Bundy's past revealed that while he wasn't interested in porn, he used to scour libraries and bookshops for factual and fictional crime novels, looking for the sections detailing violent sexual assault. Paradoxically, he'd probably have enjoyed some passages in Larsson's work, although obviously that would be the last thing Larsson intended.
Not that there isn't a discussion to be had about violent porn and its effects, but citing Bundy as an example of its inevitably corrosive effects is mistaken. People in Bundy's (thankfully) tiny category, are so far gone that they don't need violent porn to do what they do.
stop moaning and pop the kettle on, love; there's a good girl.
I'm becoming convinced you're my soulmate. No offence. ;)
@harry the don
I have quite a lot in common with Larrson's heroine. If you don't believe me, I'd be more than happy to show you... little boy.
Laurie Penny is a contributing editor to the New Statesman.