http://youtu.be/2A91ASkWww8

The Londonistan Spring..

Very interesting and accurate point that race relations discourse in Britain is all about muslims. Most of these riots seem less about race and more a combination of disadvantaged people just angry during difficult economic times combined with the scary prospect of professional criminals using social media to coordinate mass criminality. I was in Brixton last night before the trouble started and there were lost of people who were wasted (there was some kin dif festival on) itching to smash things. The trigger - the shooting last week - does suggest though that race relations were forgotten.

"And even Chuka is careful to represent himself as a politician who happens to be black, rather than a black politician."

Unlike Bernie Grant or even David Lammy, Chuka Ummunna isn't from these communities. He's from a middle class family, a nice area and is the nephew of a QC not ap oor boy made good. Unsurprisingly both for this reason and because he is ambitious he wants to be a mainstream politican whose interests are the economy, media regulation etc. Not the black community. Umunna may have been happy to get media coverage as the british Barack due to his skin colour but he quote obviously wants to be a mainstream cabinet member not a tribue of a disadavantaged community.

Everything now rests on David lammy's shoulders. He wasn't particularly successful as a mainstream careerist politician. Now lets see if he can raise his game as a community politician when his own community has come under attack.

The problem is parenting - plenty of people live in poverty but don't riot.My guess would be that the majority of rioters come from one parent families - very little money or the education to teach their kids right from wrong.Solution - don't have kids unless you are in a stable relationship and can afford them.

The reason why the BBC goes to Newcastle if there is a negative story about the inner cities they cant avoid is that it has the largest predominantly white English inner city left in Britain. But the foreign media does notice that the English inner city riots are in the least European areas of Europe as where the riots in France.

Oh do shut up. The divide was between those who smashed, looted and burned the livelihoods and property of other people, and those who did not. There were all sorts of people on both sides.

The photos of the yobs show more white than black -- so what is this whole discussion about? As I logged on, I wondered how many of yobs, black or white could do the simple arithmetic problem to sign on. Are blacks not allowed to vote in the UK? Are they prevented from registering as voters? Are they blocked from the polls? So what is the excuse -- other than illiteracy and no knowledge or interest in the political process?

What is so striking to me is that while these scenes of violence unfold in politically correct (and so quick to judge and condemn when it comes to others) Britain - in Israel hundreds of thousands of ordinary citizens have taken to the streets in the last weeks to protest social injustices. Rallies all over the country on Saturday evening were estimated at 500 thousand people (in a country of 7 and a half million)

What are we seeing? Music, singing, children carried on their parents' shoulders, handicapped, people of every colour and background all joining together in HARMONY. Not a smashed vehicle or shop front in sight. (Of course you are NOT seeing this as the BBC wouldn't dream of giving GOOD coverage to Israel)

Makes me proud to be Israeli . And very sad to also be British.

In spite of the skewed reporting on the situation here in Israel, we still have firm family values and respect for our police force.

Let's hope Britain gets them back QUICKLY!

Britain be viewed as 'treasure island' by the corporate world... charge as much as you can get away with... unfortunately too many people cannot afford to pay that 'ransom'... so they do unto others as others do unto them... cheat, steal, 'mug'.
A less materialistic (and by default low-brow) society would suffer less temptation.

@andrew ... and you call "the black community"less educated? - are you aware of the history that brought this community to your shores, essentially making them "your" problem? Well since we are into being reductionist, then statistically the white European community is covertly racist, comparatively more violent than any other race on earth (having violently colonised most of the planet, enslaving and changing the customs of indigenous peoples almost everywhere) and notoriously thieving, having in their coffers the gold, diamonds, not to mention other natural resources of poor nations that for generations as a result are still "developing". You wouldn't want to be judged like this would you? But if we were going to stereotype, this would then be a description of you.I think an education is in order @andrew, check out the marginalisation, poor inner city education and lack of mobility that draws young people regardless of colour (I agree @greg) into a feeling of deprivation and anger, and eventually into the societal disconection that leads to violence. It always makes the racist more comfortable believing in some racial inferiority garbage to explain social problems, than it is for them to take a look an honest look at the problems, and see that actually race is only a part of it while they continue to be racist - why not just work on creating a colour-blind world where everyone has an equal chance? What are the attitudes and beliefs, including your own, that continue to stop this from happening?

How naieve of the OP - all these idiots have done is allow the kick-start of armed policing, right wing policies and hikes in Council taxation on their own doorstep - thought that one through did you ? Oh no doh! Nothing but nothing can condone the plainly subhuman shit that has passed in the last few days, however "angry" or "disaffected" the youth may feel - get off your arses and get a job, don't rob Poundland. And wtf are all the parents doing (apart from sitting resplendent in their new shell-suit, watching their local charity shop burn on their new 32" Samsung?)

to west hillman
I wish white actually had a grasp on reality most of the east violent gangs are white the krays are a prolific example. The gangs who bring in drugs are white most hard core famouse criminal gangs and drug rings leaders are white,. who do you think bring the gangs to this country. I was raised by a black father alone with 8 brother and sisters 4 of us are self employed and the other holding down jobs like social workers and journalist, who rasied the MP's who stole taxpayers money. being raised by good parents is a not the only ingrediant for good behaviour. What working class children are facing the same problems. I think society has a different treatment model for black boys that challenges their masculinity and their strenghth so they assert them self in the best way they know how, unfortunately it is not the best way. Black boys are the first to be excluded from school. growing up i had friend who was told he needed to go to a special school because he was quiet and did not interact with the other children, had his parents not fought against his life would have been a different story, now he mentors young people has two degrees, sound like a fairy tale but it is true. A strong father can not stop all the ills that society throw at black boys. I work in accounts and due to may education i get job in blue organistions/ well known and time and time again i am shocked when i walk and i am the only black man on a floor of 200 people. I have known educated black men to cry real tears at the hands of the racist employer because they do not do the pub run. Really for black boys it is survival of the fittest. And it is even worse when they have a no male role models. but saying that i know amazing black women who raise their children well without a male role not by choice. let's face it the nuclear family is dead, even the royal family have absent fathers, where is the father figure in fergies life???

Chuka Umunna is mixed race not black. It's an important difference and I wish some would recognise this rather than lazily refer to mixed race individuals as "black".

Matthew; We are all mixed race.

Invite the Third World to London, London becomes Third World. Pretty simple, really, and a lot more real than the idea that White racism is causing them to go ape.

Another small matter. People with guns and bombs in the third world are rebels with real causes aren't they, and we support them don't we?? They have minority grievances like the Tamils in Sri Lanka, Muslims in India .....

trouble is, i'm as much of a bleeding heart liberal as the next new statesman reader, but when i see criminality on this scale i immediately forget the met's inadequacies and want them to crack a few heads.
it just so happens that our cleaner will be coming from lithuania (via west london) to clean our house today at a not-especially-generous-but-not-starvation-rations £9 per hour. i'd happily employ someone from tottenham to do it (it's much nearer than west london, let alone lithuania), but would anyone chucking bricks at the police last night get off their arse to actually do some work? will they fuck.

http://www.blottr.com/uk/breaking-news/thug-life-uk

Chuka Umunna seems to be one of these politicians who is, like both Milibands, only capable of speaking in politician jargon. I fail to see how anybody can see him as inspirational, or anything like Obama. They are worlds apart in both rhetoric and oratory but also ideas and leadership potential.

David Lammy who was seemingly invisible during Labour's government years now has an opportunity now to raise his respect and profile within his community and from across the political spectrum.

Bernie Grant was a polarising figure, not only for his anti-police sentiment but for his far-left views. Lammy, a centre-left Blairite has less divisive political views and could begin to prove himself as a proper role model for aspiring black politicians.

Of course there are also several Conservatives who are able to do the job, Kwarsi Kwarteng, Adam Afriyie but they seem conveniently forgotten here.

A real point to think about, however, is how we can make our stuffy, 18th century Parliament with wigs, tights, black rod, purposefully confusing etiquette relevant to young people, particularly those who are non-white or of non-British origin.

How many Black teenagers can look at the House of Commons and say "I can see myself working there"?

What do you mean Bill Fraser? Something about "liberal elite", what specifically are you adding to the debate?

the looters are being punished a lot.

I'm sorry but this article is just daft. If these people want justice and fairness, they shouldn't burn down people's homes. Lets not all get stockholm syndrome!!!

Let millions of Blacks and Muslims into the UK and you don't expect big problems. I got out of London, UK (for New Zealand)three years ago because most of it is now on a par with the 3rd world. The Labour party flooded the UK with 3rd world immigrants between 1997 and 2010. The UK is finished, London kids are now an ethnic minority in their own nation. How stupid can you get?

This may save the UK from total collapse.
1) Revoke all Citizenship and Residency from all 3rd world immigrants since 1997.
2)A total freeze on all immigration permanently expect for those with top level skills.
3) Ban islam, all mosques and all islamic schooling.
4) Get out of the EU and maintain only a free trade agreement with Europe.
5) Ban all muslim money from UK institutions. They are promoting the evil hate and death cult through all UK institutions and have been for decades.

A recent poll reported in the Jamaica Gleaner found a majority of Jamaicans (in Jamaica) thought things were better under the British. Ha!
Gun crime and knife crime are not phenomena indigenous to the UK, they are imported from Ja. As are attitudes to the Police who in Jamaica are a little mafia.

Whitey liberals go to the source.