Preview: NS Interview with Gore Vidal
On David Cameron, Barack Obama and why he thinks America is heading for dictatorship.
By Daniel Trilling Published 11 October 2010 16:45
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605 comments
1) Mr. Vidal is correct. The US is corrupt and crooked. The parasite class (politicians of both stripes) keep it that way.
2) The dislike of Mr. Obama does not stem from his color. It stems from his arrogance, his ignorance of economics and history, his laziness, and his general stupidity. He is a light-weight, a tyro, a third-rate hack from Chicago.
3) Mr. Vidal is a funny guy, but looks won't get you all that far at his age.
Always count on the obama brigade of America haters to support an old senile queen/pervert like gore- gore/terrorists thank John,Mary, politporn and allthe other Obama sycophant/America haters
Aahh, this is fun! Nice going guys. You all seem to be rather a friendly bunch, and it is interesting to see what chaps (chafes) your rear end.
In defense of our beloved American cousins -- don't forget, one and all, that the British people would today be speaking a kind of German dialect if not for those dear US taxpayers and soldiers gladly pulling your butts out of the fire. Winston understood this very well and liked to discuss it.
I'm reminded of a visit to London in about 1983 when a nice young Oxford educated, leftist Londoner and his cute girlfriend engaged me in a long, strong, but pleasant political discussion. He like many British people underestimate the American propensity to constantly remake their country through the economic process known as creative destruction. It's a rather untidy recurring capitalist dynamic. The young man said to me quite authoritatively, with that slightly tilted head, nose reaching to the ceiling just a wee bit, "Well, the Americans won't have any more surprises for us now, going forward. They've run out of steam."
Remember, the English Sunset is not the American way my friends.
Warmest regards to Maggie. I admire so much her brilliant, and wonderful command of the American language.
I fail to divine the inherent or coded racism in the critiques of Obama, when looking at the mindboggling trillion dollar deficits, the incompetent health care bill, the broken campaign promises on fiscal responsibility and WoT issues... The left now feels entitled to rule without scrutiny out of self righteousness, despite such dismal results of thier ideology. Fools.
I thought Vidal died from aids.
If Vidal was the only idiot that thinks like he does, we could write him off as th kook he is, but regretfully he,s not> Liberalism/Progressivism is a mental disorder. Thank God the country has come back to it"s senses,
Gore Vidale is just one more chunk in the endless spew of vomit that has been characteristic of the left since the 30s. They're still angry that Hitler got to be the German dictotor then instead of one of their own, and that the US stopped the Communist takeover of Italy after the War. Too bad that the likes of them are now entrenched in the US Congress and White House, and in the Universities.
What a twisted view on the the state of affairs. Those excerpts sound like the rantings of some mentally challenged homeless man. Reading this made me sad for Gore Vidal.
Actually, the Dems are no difference from the Reps. Gore just likes being gay, n' thats about how deep it goes. Nothing about both parties being owned by Goldman Suchs, etc. G.V. lives in sad, lonely, bitter world.
If the "...dictatorship is coming..." it will likely be a dictatorship of the left, not the right. A Huey Long/Hugo Chavez Global populist rather than a nationalist Mussolini. But it won't be Obama, he's the harbinger not the principal. More than likely it will be someone in the wings, currently; supported by Soros'-type money and union thug "brownshirts". I hope that Vidal lives long enough to be part of the vanguard of leftist intellectuals that are brushed aside by him(her?).
For starters, who cares what Gore Vidal has to say?
Regarding Obama; he's a Marxist, and was raised to hate all things American/western from childhood. The real question that needs to be asked is: who is behind Obama, and how do we out them?
Wow, playing the race card. What a small thinking little man you are. People don't buy your BS Gore, and they don't buy Obama's.
Gore Vidal is a useless eater.
Vidal is correct in almost all of his observations. Wake up and stop getting your news spoon fed from FOX. I can't believe the stupidity of 99% of these posts. You all can't be this stupid.
I love the comments here. Whoever this Gore (means white in Hindi, Ironically) is and I have never heard of him before; as of corruption. Most Corrupt should in the least mean >= More corrup than India and >= Pakistan >= China.
Mr Gore, as someone noted is a clueless idiot then.
Or some other person also noted, I am wasting my time. Literally.
I'd like to hear what Vidal LIKES about Obama. He certainly seems to get everything ELSE wrong !!
He could not be more WRONG about Republicans if he tried. We are for individual liberties and freedoms, and don't want ANY racism. In fact, we want NO mention of 'race' ever again, on any stupid form, or any MSM broadcast again. Racism is currently a topic of the Leftists. Period. They are so desperate for their semi-socialism -- they'll stoop to anything.
Well, he DID say that Nixon was "the greatest (US)president of the last half of the 20th century."
The way he was treated on election night by a British interviewer was sad and shameful; he was laughed at afterwards, openly. If you think he's too old to be interviewed, allow him to die with some dignity. Don't put him on TV and then laugh when a man in his eighties doesn't respond the way he did thirty years ago.
As ??'s removed comment said, if Gore Vidal thinks America is headed for faschism with a black president then we should really be quaking in our boots here in " Great" Britain where we've never even ever been represented by someone from an ethnic minority background. Hopefully the next Milliband, if he gets into power will change that but still.. he's white, isn't he? When will we allow someone of a non-white background rule the roost here? I can't see that happening.
People like Gore Vidal just slander and blacken the fantastic progress the US has finally made on this issue.
He just doesn't even understand, does, he what the election of Obama really meant from a historical point of view.
Hey folks, it's Obama's white half that is making him do it wrong. Doesn't everyone know that?
Actually, for a big majority of Anerican voters, race has nothing to do with it...It's failing policies.
That's an "Inconvenient Truth", backed by solid polling data.
Look, just in time for Halloween - someone resurrected a cadaver and it speaks of horrors!
Where can I get one of these to put on the front porch?
Being called a "racist" has no power any more. The Race Card has lost all its value.
And yet, it's all the libs have left and they still try to use it.
Impotent, nasty, bitter - beware, lefties get dangerous when they're cornered and have nowhere to go.
Another type of Gore has nothing but hate for the unwashed masses who, about 20 years late, are finally waking up. Obama's problem has everything to do with his lack of experience, his lack of backbone, his over-reliance on speechwriters and the TOTUS, his over-reliance on ante-intellectuals, and his abuse out of critics. Oh how I wish we could have elected an old, meek, wise, conservative, liberty-loving person who happens to be black; rather than that self-important egomaniac blunderer, Obama.
The only place the racist cliche is still accepted as truth is in the artsy-fartsy circle jerks of elitist liberals. And deep down, they don't believe it any more either. You have lost the argument, Vidal.
Once a leftist always a leftist. A little more lotion on the anus Vidal.
The sick puppies of the sixties and the damage they have done is getting ready to be booted for good. People are still poor while Gore Vidal is not. If he really believed in what he promotes why hasn't he given all his money to the poor. Liberals are hypocrites of the first degree.
Late-stage syphillis must be the comeuppance for Vidal's decadent lifestyle.
A rotten brain for a rotten life.
Gore is just like Obama .......... LIBERAL HYPOCRITES .......... after 8 years of liberal vitriol and hate toward America, gore/Obama keep whining about America rejecting them and their antiAmerica attitudes and actions
People like Vidal are stupid old fools. THis guy has NOW CLUE about the hearts and minds of the Republican party or people who oppose Obama. We oppose Obama because he is DESTROYING the greatest civilization man has devised. I saw where someone above defended Obama by saying "he gave health care to all" - holy goodness, he has not given us ANYTHING but higher insurance premiums and a massive burden on the existing health care system that will bring it to its knees. You people are damned fools. Get your nose out of our business and quit quoting old leftist, communist-wishing has-beens as though they have some kind of authority. Look where their utopian ideas have gotten you ... deeper in debt, smothered by immigrants and completely out of national identity.
igonore all the asses and then get a life you asses
Gore V is still not quite able to ascend above a dessicated vegetative state. As autumn gives way to winter this over-wound windbag shall soon become the detritus of cultural elitism.
Thank God!
During the 1968 Democrat Convention Vidal was a guest commentator along with William F. Buckley on one of the news shows with nightly TV coverage of the event. As usual, Vidal was egging the Buckley on as well as encouraging the violence from the street thugs.
Buckley threatened to knock his teeth down his throat. He should have. What a twit is Vidal.
Don't really like Obama, don't care about Obama....but these comments are a bit weird.
Masses of identical hysterical messages.
Does anyone actually know what Socialism/Communnism is? If so, could you name three, no, maybe even one way in which Obama is one these isms.
Years ago I saw William F. Buckley call Gore Vidal a stupid Son of a Bitch on live Television. It, the program had something to do with elections or something Political. One thing for sure though as much as I dislike the man he is right on one point. I think this Nation will end up under a Dictator ship. And for those Communist Bastards the Democrats they are the biggest threst in the form of Domestic terrorist we have to worry about. Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the other Communist want total control of every aspect of your life. Every day, every hour of the day these thugs are trying to figure out ways to take more and more of your rights from you. And for all of you Obama fans that think everyone who dislikes his are racist I got news for you. Obama is the racist. He has did more to divide the race's than anyone else in many, many years. He uses but hates the Whites and the half of him that is White. He is the trash of a Hippy Whore who was a Bottom feeder in Marrying a Black man giving birth to the Anti Christ.
Well, the so called elite really think that the American people are fools. We know when we have been hoodwinked by the President and his merry men. I knew from the get go that he was an empty suit and a fraud. However, so much guilt during the '08 season caused the "fake" hope and changed. I know the so called independents that elected him are so sorry that they were tricked!
Mr. Vidal is either a rabid partisan or, sadly, he has reached that time in is life where he can hide his own Easter eggs.
@ Black Sabbath -- awesome!! You did a great job identifying the blunders and outright attacks on our Constitution that Obama and his crew have perpetrated in just 21 months. Hard to believe someone could produce a record like that-- again, in only 21 months--and have people still support him. I guess this brand of Kook-Aid is stronger than I thought.
Hey Gagger_Pecker,
You are dumber than snot. Obama has followed Maxist thinking for all of his adult life. "[T]he recession started with Bush and officially ended with Obama". Really? The key word here is "officially." You libs are in charge; ivory tower drones have declared the end of the recession. Funny, that news didn't quite make it to Main St.
When you Dumpacraps use the term "tax cuts for the rich", you show that you are either a) Lying, or b) Stupid. EVERYONE who pays taxes got the tax cuts. I guess we could push the notion that you are for tax increases on the poor. Tax hikes on cigarettes, booze, and the like disproportionally hit the poor.
And your side's constant referencing of "tea bagging" is simply your projection showing, since most conservatives had to look up the term to know what you idiots were talking about.
True, we are "headed" toward a "dictatorship" but what we are really have is a despotic president with a Despotism form of government. However, this temporary despotic government will be brought to a swift end on Nov. 2nd. The experiment with socialism...Marxism and a tyrannical self-serving oppressive government will be brought to a quick death.
People like Vidal may think, and even hope, the U.S.A. is heading for a "dictatorship" but he apparently is ignorant of the Constitution and history of the people of the U.S.A. or has his own self-serving political biases.
The brief experiment with socialism has served its purpose. It has educated the American voter about what a socialist government, president and congress is and why socialism has never succeeded.
We, the people, of the U.S.A. will write the last chapter on this experiment in socialist...
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Bruce wrote (@ 22:38)..."Hey, NS. Is there no filter you can use to blot out all this right wing spammer filth?"
So, you want differing opinions censored, Bruce? And I'll bet you fancy yourself 'tolerant' and 'diverse.'
Typical liberal. NOT to be confused with classic liberalism, like Voltaire who was said to have remarked 'I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
No, nowadays (with schmuk's like Bruce), it's "Shut up or I'll censor you!"
What a man you are, Bruce. How typically liberal. What a real piece of work.
Who's Gore Vidal?
Another Gore moron,
Another Gore moron.
Oh dear, the rednecks have found their way onto the New Statesman - I assume you guys don't actually read NS, otherwise you wouldn't be shouting at Obama for being a marxist. Gore Vidal is a great thinker and far more reasonable than any of you delusional right-wing nutters.
Vincent, who do you have YOUR news 'spoon fed' by? Come on, what? CNN? ABC? CBS? NBC? NPR, perhaps?
Come on, Vincent...one conservative network out of six isn't so bad, is it? Unless, of course, 18% dissent is still too much, for you.
Perhaps you're just angry that Fox is the most-watched news network in the USA, hands-down.
So what's your solution? Ban it, maybe? Censor its opinions?
Like Schmucky Bruce above, your solution is to censor, ban, censor, ban, censor...and all just because you cannot stomach dissent.
If an opinion 'bothers' you so much, then how about just ignoring it, rather than slapping it with a ban?
I think the posts here more than support the old man's prediction. But it will be the American Taliban that creates the dictatorship.
Why would anyone seek comments from this senile never was been? He wrote a novel two decades ago??? Who cares what he thinks?
To boot, he has no idea what the American Tea Party movement is all about. The momentum it is creating is specifically to avoid the very thing he is predicting - dictatorship.
This guy is crazy!! How can anyone take him seriously?? We have record deficits because of the Democrat party, Obama the senator and president contributed to the mess. I can't wait for November!!!
Who cares what this old sodomite thinks?
Except, of course, to use him as a negative barometer - just about everything he says, if you think or do the opposite, you'll be right.
Gore Vidal is irrelevant. The only people who listen to him are far-left extremists.
A dictatorship requires the centralization of power, on which Obama has been working overtime since his first day in office. It's rather discordant of Vidal to claim the party that favors the decentralization of power is somehow leading us to a dictatorship. November, please come soon.