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Preview: NS Interview with Gore Vidal

On David Cameron, Barack Obama and why he thinks America is heading for dictatorship.

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Ed Z's picture

Gore Vidal hasn't been relevant for decades. He's dead but doesn't have the common decency to lie down.

DJH's picture

Oh boy, another mindless twit claiming a majority of American are racist. Never mind that the old Klan member ever in Congress was a dem, never mind Reps passed the civil rights legislation (NOT DEMS), never mind a rep president signed the Emancipation Proclamation... ohhhh, no all republicans are racists because - well duh, idiot liberals have no other real arguement so they just try to convince the black community that the right is racist.

Vidal is an ignorant, race baiting twit socialst, hate America first type.
Can someone change his diaper and wipe that spittle off his chin?

John D. Galt's picture

Each time the black American government leaders get in a bind it's race. What a crock of crap! Remember when OJ got off? Well, Obama will not get off being the worst (non-American) President the U.S. has ever seen. This Muslim signs anything that will cause harm to the U.S. or it's principals. The ACORN falls very close to the tree, and his family were communists, socialists, and he still hangs with the same. Why did he not run for office in Kenya, at least they could relate to his ways. The 50% of the people in America that do pay tax think he stinks. Why do you think the other half like him?

John's picture

Britian is overrun with terrorists who spit on British troops and the "tough guys" in Britian do nothing. Weaklings. That's all.

Roger's picture

Wow. This is one nasty, anti-American old man.

If he calls Republicans enemies of the people, just imagine what he thinks of the Liberal-Socialists who are subverting our Constitution!

P.S. Vidal... We don't hate Obama because he's black. That's a Democrat thing. We despise the Dictator-Wannabe that he is.

OWalsh's picture

I am a Marxist. Obama is not. 3 of Obama's 5 biggest funders were financial institutions. His bailout is Keynesian. His ignorance of the trade union movement is typical of a rightist. He is as bourgeois a politician as any in the history of the Democracts... or Republicans.

'There is one party with two right wings.' Gore Vidal. Enough to earn anybody's respect.

What a joke's picture

If this hate-mongering diaper wearer hates america so much why did he come back to the US after living in Italy for the last 3 decades. I guess because he is senile

Paavo's picture

So this is what dementia looks like.

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Sardondi's picture

From 2000 to 2008, Gore Vidal and his bosom pals constantly threw hissy fits about George Bush and Republicans; charging Bush had crushed the Constitution, Bush would send jackbooted leather-boys to break down their doors (perhaps that was their dream instead of a nightmare), and elections would be canceled as Bush seized dictatorial powers. I don't know what is more dismaying: that the Vidalites could actually sink so low as to utter such obvious rubbish; or that the American (and European) media so willingly aided and abetted them by happily treating their charges and giving them prominence.

That Vidal would now repeat such ludicrous and disproven charges claims is little short of amazing. Indeed, it was not Bush who was, and is not Republicans who are the threats to destroy the Constitution, but Vidal's favorite brand of despot, Barack Obama, who has done far more to crush Americans' freedom than any Republican in history.

But it is amusing to see how sharply NS has responded to help Vidal get the word out to the faithful once more. What a disgusting performance.

ONTIME's picture

The real trick is to put Barry and Soros in the same cell at the same time and let them screw each other they way they are trying to rape this country. Vidal has always been a bit of a sissy boy and he needs to be reminded of the way he thinks of conservatives. Maybe his friends will mark his grave....

Dominick's picture

After reading all your inane comments, all I have to say is "you are all idiots!"

Robert Jones's picture

Gore Vidal should be put in a home for the insane.

RachelOlberwomann's picture

deranged freak with liberal mental disorder now a senile deranged freak with liberal mental disorder

Mr. Do RIght's picture

Well of-course Vidal is right, the USA is full of these jingoistic rubes from down in Jesus Stan. Yes I do think there will be a dictatorship in the USA, heaven knows Cheney wanted the job.

mrmiloboy's picture

It pays to know a little history. Vidal and many other liberals make fools of themselves.

http://www.everythingiknowiswrong.com/2005/02/history_of_the_.html

http://www.gop.com/index.php/issues/accomplishment/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqfRn2V-NxM&feature=related

Scarey people's picture

You people are really scarey. I just hope as many other countries as possible distance themselves from the U.S. You're obviously out to continue creating havoc as possible and have absolutely no idea about anything beyond your own doorstep. My sympathy to all decent americans who cannot escape the depravity of a republican regime.

Lordrobot's picture

Another opinion from the Gayblade Old Folks Hom@

Lee's picture

Ian wrote (@18;17pm): "My word, this place has been invaded with nutters!"

So then reduce their numbers here, Ian -- and stop posting.

hondr's picture

Gore Vidal is another washed up has been, preaching mastercard marxism, and unfortunately we have one of his disciples in the White House.

We'll neuter the Left on November 2nd, thankfully.

Michael ABQ's picture

To whitewash anyone who disagrees with Obama as a racist is racist and demonstrates a true PREjudice. My faith tradition says that whatever your mother is that is what you are so in my mind he us white. So now what? I say he is white. Do you still want to tell me I am a racist because I think he is a bad President? I for one am getting sick and tired of the blame shifting to the last President who was not a conservative either. How can anyone say with a straight face that the previous administration took a shovel and dug us into a financial hole, then tell us the solution is to get a bulldozer to dig a deeper hole. Its the spending STUPID! STOP IT!!!

Surrounded by Idiots...'s picture

You know what really scares me here in the States? The uproar from those on the Right when they realize they didn't get to vote for a new president on Nov 2nd, and won't be able to for another two years!!! Judging from the comments here, there are a lot these useful idiots out there, and they ain't going to be happy one bit!!!

Peter's picture

Even though Mr Thompson is arguing the impossible..
What has Hitler got to do with anything right now?

What would the discovery that in fact Hitler was an unconventional socialist have to do with Obama?

I'm not defending Obama but those crazy comparisons ruin your arguments.

buzzcuts's picture

Vidal is a great American patriot. I know its a real stretch to expect most of the morons on this site to grasp what an intellectual actually, is since no one here has a clue what a marxist or communist is. Since few of you seem capable of thinking for yourself. When the great right wing bible thumping dictator slides on in, none of you will have the luxury of free thought again.
You are bringing this on yourselves, America. Listen to Gore. He is wise. God help us all from the idiocracy.

Race card's picture

Race card, race card, race card, race card, etc., ad nauseam.

The Republicans don't like Obama because he's black? What a load of nonsense. The party line seems to be that because he's black, you're not allowed to criticize him. And if you do criticize him - no matter the true reason - ultimately it's really only because you're such a racist.

Why does anyone care what Gore Vidal has to say about this anyhow? How or why is his inane opinion worth anything more than anyone else's?

The guy is nuts - although I will agree with his assessment that we're headed for a dictatorship and becoming more crooked than some South American countries.

I differ, however, in his assessment of where the threat comes from. It comes from the left; from Obama and his cronies and their ilk; not from the right.

Sandy Yago's picture

Bore Vidal. Tired old commie, why was this magazine interested at all, inquiring browser from Drudge would like to know. Oh, maybe the mag is also staffed by tired old commies?

But more interestingly, what is a New Statesman? Is Obama one? Just curious, was there an old "Statesman" magazine before 1913 and this is the New Statesman, now abut 100 years "new"? What did they mean by New Statesman back in 1913? The kind that provoked and then conducted WW1?

Why to call a magazine New (or any other adjective) Statesman? To idolize politicians? Positive focusing on statist ideologies? Is there also a Secretariat Times in the UK? The Committee Tribune? The Minister Today?

Robert's picture

I find Gore Vidal's essays really enjoyable.

He has a pretty keen take on football too.

Flayer's picture

Now we have two idiot Gores (as if one wasn't enough!).

Yes, please keep telling us that we don't like Obama because he's half-African/half-Caucasian. Perhaps that's exactly why you LIKE him, Mr. Gore, regardless of his character. I wonder why it is I don't like you, Mr. Gore? (Hint: it is not because of your race/religion/creed.)

RepublicansAreFacists's picture

Wait...do I read some of these comments correctly...do these people thing we're talking about *AL GORE*? This would fit well within the right wing Fascist methodus operandi...they're so used to being spoon fed talking points that they don't even bother to read the material.

I know plenty of fasc...er...republicans, and I can vouch for their eager desire to be told what to do. Mr VIDAL (*NOT* Gore) is right when he said that the US is steering towards dictatorship...really and truly, many, many Americans are starting to consider a life up north, before the jackboots start kicking down doors.

thinkov's picture

help

smokedsalmoned's picture

I am a republican and an american and am not the small town enemy of anyone nor a racist.
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Just because you like, admire or fawn over Obama does not mean those who oppose him are stupid, racist or murderous.
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Just remember who keeps calling tea party members by a sex act phrase (tea ba--ing). Remember who labeled the tea party as racist, the democrats.
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There are many problems with the Democrat agenda and unless you respect and review the issues you can't determine what the rational of the opposition is. The opposition is opposed to Obama and the Dems, not just Obama. The opposition is opposed to the fake blame of Bush and the Republicans, the reverse racism, the elitism, the foolish political correctness in the face of a world wide muslim fanatic terror threat etc. etc.
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The Tea Party is not the "man made disaster", to quote the silly Democrats, Al Queda's terrorist acts are "man made disasters".

Gory varment's picture

Always the race card. Would that be the human race or what? How about the dummy card? And what is this 'we' lose wars crap? Where is your gun Gorry?

Questionman's picture

The reason is simple: LOTS of people in this country were not okay with a black man being president. Add to that the GOP players who raised the anger level by implying he was un-American, a terrorist, a non-christian, a socialist, etc. -- most of this done for only one purpose: to spread anger, not to spread facts or ideas.

Thus, we have very angry people, angry at Obama. They are angry because he is black, because they have been told he was born in Indonesia and is not a citizen, because they were told he is Marxist/Socialist/whatever. But only one of those is true, so it becomes the focal point for all of the hate.

Luddite's picture

Surrounded by Idiots. Karl Marx once said; "I am not a Marxist!". He also once called his adherents "useful idiots".

Luddite's picture

Benedict
If anyone's actually interested in reading the interview, rather than just this preview. It appears not.

smokedsalmoned's picture

Who’s Racist?
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Obamas Reverse race card was played against white people (they will tell you I look funny, i don't look like the guys on the money etc.) & that was blatantly racist & shameless
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Obamas wife gets on 60 minutes during the campaign and plays the race card when she comments she worries about her husband getting killed when he goes to the gas station (they lived in an upscale white neighborhood)
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Obama calls out on national tv a white cop who arrested his buddy for disorderly conduct, as acting stupidly. Then he bullies him publicly into attending a beer conference w the professor, himself & joe biden (for balance?) for a full fledged media photo op to make obama look good & the guy basically can't refuse to attend without looking like a racist
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Nancy Pelosi is the one who started calling the tea party & town hall protestors, thugs, brownshirts and claimed they were acting like nazi's
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- “Are there people out there who don't like me because of race? I'm sure there are. That's not the overriding issue here. I think there are people who are anti-government.” Obama

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Reverend Wright is not so quickly forgotten. When your mentor is an ex muslim, a racist on tape during church sermons, promotes jew hating louis farrakhan (an american muslim) in the church magazine, you claim him as a father figure and state publicly in prior campaigns that you are a very regulary church goer.....what else can we think but that you are not a big fan of white people.
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Mark Lloyd Diversity Direct of at the FCC, appointed by Obama has praised Hugo Chavez, suggested White Media executives step down in favor of minorities and his commitment to free speech is questioned in this article by the Washington Times.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/23/diversity-czar-takes-hea...
Another Marxist, reverse racist, working for Obama.
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It should also not be forgotten that the majority of Democrats voted against civil rights in the 50's and again in the 60s when it passed. JFK and Al Gores Daddy both voted against it. They also voted against the 13 and 14th amendment, created the Jim crow laws, ruled the south for a hundred years and manned the army of the KKK. Of course the party was founded by slave owners, including Andrew Jackson, to maintain slavery and its members ran the South in the Civil war.

DavyCrockett's picture

Amazingly the people who elected our then messiah only 23 short months ago have now all become racists in the interim. Time to up Mr. Vidal's meds. He's going to be especially depressed beginning November 3rd when the citizenry begin to undo their recent mistake and return us to limited government that lives within it's means.

smokedsalmoned's picture

Who Lied On Healthcare Cost
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Columnist David Brooks pointed out in his March 10th column that the Democrats stuffed the health legislation with gimmicks and dodges designed to get a good score from the Congressional Budget Office but that of course won't honestly control runaway spending. Here is how they gamed the system, themselves, the taxpayers and the C.B.O.:
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• There is the doc fix dodge. The legislation pretends that Congress is about to cut Medicare reimbursements 21 percent. Everyone knows that will never happen, so over the next decade actual spending will be $300 billion higher than paper projections.
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• There is the long-term care dodge. The bill creates a $72 billion trust fund to pay for a new long-term care program. The sponsors count that money as cost-saving, even though it will eventually be paid back out when the program comes on line.
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• There is the subsidy dodge. Workers making $60,000 and in the health exchanges would receive $4,500 more in subsidies in 2016 than workers making $60,000 and not in the exchanges. There is no way future Congresses will allow that disparity to persist. Soon, everybody will get the subsidy.
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• There is the excise tax dodge. The primary cost-control mechanism and long-term revenue source for the program is the tax on high-cost plans. But Democrats aren't willing to levy this tax for eight years. The fiscal sustainability of the bill rests on the naive hope that a future Congress will accept a trillion-dollar tax when the current Congress wouldn't accept an increase of a few billion.
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• There is the 10-6 dodge. One of the reasons the bill appears deficit-neutral in the first decade is that it begins collecting revenue right away but doesn't have to pay for most benefits until 2014. That's 10 years of revenues to pay for 6 years of benefits, something unlikely to happen again unless the country agrees to go without health care for four years every decade.
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• There is the Social Security dodge. The bill uses $52 billion in higher Social Security taxes to pay for health care expansion. But if Social Security taxes pay for health care, what pays for Social Security?
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• There is the pilot program dodge. Admirably, the bill includes pilot programs designed to help find ways to control costs. But it's not clear that the bill includes mechanisms to actually implement the results. This is what happened to undermine previous pilot program efforts.
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Despite Obama touting its deficit neutrality, he and The Democrats have built yet another unsustainable and likely unkillable program that will damage Americas fiscal and economic future and every taxpayer should know it and be mad as hell about it.

Roger's picture

To the doofus who commented about Republicans being "facists," two points: One, it's "Fascist." And, two, the Democrats and this current President fit the definition PERFECTLY.

# Fascism

1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.

# Oppressive, dictatorial control.

Learn what the term means and stop embarrassing yourself.

Flayer's picture

Here's the new N-word:
November!
bye-bye Gores (both of them) and TOTUS.

smokedsalmoned's picture

Investigate Stimulus Fraud - Its one of the real reasons the american electorate is angry.
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The Administration tells us that the Stimulus bill saved 650,000 jobs. While I am not sure how you count a job as created or saved, when even economists can't agree on that, it is a simple task to check on the numbers reported by governmental entities. Apparently the press decided to simply look at the federally reported numbers and check them against public records as to governmental employment and to no ones real surprise, they simply don't add up.
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The Chicago Breaking News Center, powered by The Chicago Tribune, reported the following on 11/3/09:
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- North Chicago school district got $4,700,000 in funds and the report says it saved 473 teachers jobs, but the district only employs 290 teachers.
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- Wilmette Public School District 39 showed it used its funds to save 166 jobs but when asked Superintendant Ray Lechners said the # should be zero.
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- Dolton-Riverdale School District 148, said funds saved 382 full time teaching jobs, but that's 142 more than the district actually has.
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- Kankakee School District 111, showed 665 full-time jobs saved but top school officials when questioned said they only employ a total of 600 full and part time workers.
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The UPI.com reporting for USA Today reported the following on 11/3/09:
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- The manager of a public housing project in Blooming Grove, Texas reported a gain of 450 jobs based on $26,174 in stimulus funds for maintained projects. That highly efficient! However, an inquiry found that he had hired six workers, including fiver roofers and one inspector.

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- The Plymouth, Conn., Police Department reported a gain of 108 jobs with a grant of just $15,355. That's $142.17 per job!
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Someone is lying and its either Joe Biden's group who is monitoring the numbers or its those who sent them in. We as citizens must demand a public accounting for our money, especially before a second stimulus is authorized.

how sad's picture

I only have feelings of pity for Mr. Vidal. May God touch his heart and give him the strength and wisdom to keep his thoughts to himself. How unspeakably sad he is.

Step2theRight's picture

I remember Gore Vidal's TV appearance in the 1960s with William F. Buckley, Jr. He called Buckley a "Nazi" and could not back it up. It was rather hilarious when Mr. Buckley told him if he called him that again, he would, so many words, beat the hell out of him right there on the stage and it was obvious that he meant it.

It appears that Gore Vidal has been making the same kinds of irresponsible, reckless claims for his entire, not-so-illustrious career. Only now he looks like a babbling old demented fool for doing so, whereas previously he just looked liked a babbling young demented fool.

I'm Not Barry Manilow and if you say I am again I'm taking t's picture

Ah yes, those watertight, well researched and evidenced arguments that have provided the backbone of the posts here.

Anonymot's picture

Interesting. Not the comments not that the bulk of the commentors seem to copy rotely from fox and beck and the rightwing extremists, but there's no give and take of intelligent disagreement. If any of you aspire to be The Great Dictator you'd better practice how to debate with some intelligence. Otherwise you'll end up just being the guys who wear the Brown Shirts.

smokedsalmoned's picture

Radicals In The White House - Would You Hire These People?
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Anita Dunn, recently former White House Communications Director is on record as stating that Mao Tse Tung and Mother Theresa are her two favorite philosophers. If that is not alarming enough when you go down the list of Obama's various czars the story gets stranger and more frightening.
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There was Van Jones, former Green Jobs Czar, who claimed he became a Marxist while in prison. He was ousted after signing petitions claiming the Bush Administration carried out 9/11.
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There is Cass Sunstein the Regulator Czar who questioned the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms and who's 2004 book states that he believes animals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their representatives.
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There is Obama's Science Czar John Holdren who co-authored a book called Ecoscience where he proposed population controls through putting sterilants in drinking water and forced abortions. Then there's Energy Czar,
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Carol Browner who was an official member of Socialist Internationals Commission For A Sustainable World Society until the summer of 2008, a group who's key position is that rich countries must shrink their economies to address Global Warming.
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You also have Mark Lloyd, an appointee to the FCC as Diversity Czar who praises the "democratic revolution and rise to power" of Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez. He has also called for White media executivies to resign to make room for minorities.
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Perhaps Obama's 15 page vetting sheet did not uncover these items so we can give him the benefit of the doubt that these people concealed these things or that Obama was unaware of them. One would hope he does not share their ideology or their extreme views. As citizens we would hope and should demand that he remove them from his administration.
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(Keep in mind that he appointed Tim Geithner as sec of treasure...runs the IRS...though he had been caught for not paying his taxes for 2 years, in fact he was caught for 2 and paid those though he had 2 others he had not paid and until appointed by obama he did not pay those. This is who obama picked to run the IRS.
As for Elena Kagan, his supreme court pick, while dean at harvard she wrote a letter to congress concerned that the "constitutional rights" of foreign terrorists would be violated by Bush Administration. Not sure about that but I would think foreign terrorists would not have constitutional rights, simply given that they are not only foreigners but enemies of our country.)

werthnmoore's picture

We need these elitists around to remind the rest of us how arrogant and disconnected they are from the american people and our constitution.

Kimmy's picture

Gore needs to head back to the "retirement center" for his daily enema & prune juice. He's wacky

Surrounded by Idiots...'s picture

I knew that when I wrote it, except these are idiots useful to the Republican party, and sadly, still not accustomed to the disappointment they're constantly subjected to.

Sean Ellis's picture

Since when did the New Statesman become the magazine of choice for extremists? Why read at all, if it's only an excuse to spout stale McCarthyist propaganda? We all realise that there are people like yourselves who will confuse any effort to create a more equal society with Stalinism. We sympathise.

smokedsalmoned's picture

Just Read Obama's Books
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If you bought Obamas books you have supported his meteoric rise to power. You have helped a law school graduate, community organizer, short term State and US senator rise to the presidency, with all the questions as to track record and inexperience that get raised from such speedy ascent. If you read his books you know what his aims and goals are. If you read his books you have an idea about his thoughts on race, economics and you also know that what he promised on the campaign trail differed from what he said in his books and what he is pushing.
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Sadly, in my own tiny sampling of folks who bought the books, most have not read them cover to cover. Here are some quotes from Dreams From My Father: A Story Of Race and Inheritance, that should get you thinking:
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“I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”
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“There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.”
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“It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names .”
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“I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela.”
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Those of us who looked at his books, listened to his speeches, checked his political track record, reviewed his odd choice in friends or mentors, heroes and his personal experience, did not vote for him. Read his books from cover to cover, dig into who Mandela, Dubois, Malcolm, Ayres, Wright, Raines & Rezko are and determine for yourself whether his beliefs or theirs are ones you share or that you are even comfortable with.
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Best case scenario, it will reinforce your vote for him. Worst case, you will think twice about voting for those who share his agenda this November or him in 2012. What have you got to lose?

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