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A Green New Deal?

  • Posted by Caroline Lucas
  • 07 October 2008

In her newstatesman.com blog, Green Party leader Caroline Lucas says it's time to make finance the servant of the economy and gives her vision for coping with the meltdown

After the bursting of the credit bubble in August, 2007 Alastair Darling repeatedly assured us that Britain’s ‘economic fundamentals’ are sound. The implication was that the ‘real’ economy was quite distinct from the bubble economy inhabited by bankers, short-sellers and hedge fund managers. Consumers were given the impression that a firewall existed between them and the bursting credit bubble.

It now turns out that there is no firewall; even the chancellor has to acknowledge negative feedback loops between the financial economy and the real economy. It is not possible, after all, to compartmentalise within the economy, any more than it is possible to erect firewalls between the ‘real economy’, the credit bubble, and climate change.

It is clear that the three are inextricably linked.

Easy money has financed easy shopping, and easy shopping has boosted production and energy use in countries around the world. As we re-financed mortgages, maxed out on credit cards, invested in buy-to-lets, shopped for 4x4s, handbags and sports trainers.

So we burned more finite supplies of oil and coal, and this boosted manufacturing and production in far-away places, and powered economic growth. And as we burned up these precious, scarce resources, as we stripped more forests, farmed more land, fished more fish – so the earth grew more dangerously warm and less diverse.

Somehow, something, somewhere had give. These old ideas - that we could live forever on borrowed money and on borrowed time and that there are no limits to the earth’s resources – were a series of bubbles that had to burst.

The credit bubble was the first to go - on 9th August, 2007 when banks froze lending and plunged the global economy into a crisis that is still unfolding today, and becomes more terrifying as each day passes.

The shopping bubble has proved more resilient. While there are signs that UK consumer confidence is waning, the government’s national statistics office announced in August that growth, albeit moderate growth “in retail sales volume is driven by strength in clothing and footwear stores.”

So we are still shopping for clothes and shoes. So much so that developers are confident enough to open three new massive shopping centres in London, Liverpool and Bristol.

But while we shop, an even graver threat than the financial crisis is looming: the ‘bursting’ of the greenhouse gas bubble.

The melting of Arctic sea-ice, the rise in methane emissions, rapid de-forestation and increased droughts all create positive feedback effects. Forests are no longer carbon dioxide absorbers, but instead produce carbon dioxide. Thick permafrost no longer bottles up methane; instead it melts, spewing out methane and magnifying climate change.

And still the Labour government baulks at the scale and urgency of the threat to our security. And at the scale of adjustment, adaptation and investment needed to address the threat. Britain’s economy must undergo a major structural adjustment, to adapt to the threat posed to our security by climate change.

But, while the financial adjustment is already happening - albeit chaotically - the economic adjustment has yet to be addressed.

Just two weeks ago Labour ministers seemed to promise an expansion of airports, motorways and coal-fired power stations. We were offered no leadership, no vision of the much more ambitious drive for energy efficiency that is needed, or of the large-scale alternative energy investment that is vital to our security.

What is the way forward? Along with eight other green economics experts, I have co-authored a report that shows us the new direction we need.

We need a Green New Deal, based on increased regulation of the finance sector, so that finance once again becomes servant to the economy. As in the New Deal era of the 1930s, we need low interest rates and minimal tax evasion if we are to finance the massive investment needed for a multi-billion pound crash programme to make every building in the country a power station, while maximising the UK’s use of small and large-scale renewables. We need to mobilise a carbon army of green-collar workers to implement this programme. Finally we need to localise the production of food, and build a more sustainable local economy in food and other resources.

It is only such a programme that could give the people of Britain hope; that could help Britain survive this crisis, and enable our citizens to live better, more happily, and within the limits of our ecological budgets.

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21 comments from readers

Carl Jones
07 October 2008 at 16:37

(Sweeeet) Caroline, you haven`t got a clue. You greens have your heads in the sand. The previous 12 months has seen 0.7 degree fall in global tempreatures....this has wiped out the last 100 years of "ALLEDGED" global warming.LOL

I have my fingers crossed and am on the verge of praying that we don`t have a couple of massive volcanic erruptions which could further drop global tempreatures by several degrees for several years, maybe a decade and would starve many hundreds of millions of people.....maybe you`d secretly like that?LOL

The Earth is our egg, we have about 100-150 years to plunder the egg, so the human chick can leave the nest.

You greens are small minded folk who live in a world designed by themselves. At some point, you will have to grow up and walk through the doorway. Some of us humans have already come to terms with the idea that its our nature to exploit TOTTALLY, and then move on.....I never saw an elephant stop to consider the consequences of trashing his next tree.

We already have a de facto world government, but within 50 years things will work legally under one hat and only then, will there be a push to break free from our earthly confines.

Mr Darling is either a dim chap, or a bare faced liar. Capitalism isn`t dying, the elite are just conslidating their power.LOL Enjoy the ride.

Gerishnakov
07 October 2008 at 18:05

Careful with the low interest rates, we don't want to encourage too much borrowing again. The economy should not be based on debt. Yes, living standards appear to have improved over the past thirty years, but these improvements have been based on free and easy credit.

Carl Jones
07 October 2008 at 20:03

I`m glad you used "appear" to have improved over the last thirty years.

We have moved to a basic family two wage family, often with mum working in a supermarket over the weekend. As Robert Reich`s "The Pay Packet Crunch" (NS, see my comments) tell us, most Americans have lower real terms pay today, than in they did in the 70`s. We have the same pay construct in the UK. Robert`s article is very good and worth the read if ypu haven`t done so already.

You will all note that as the world economy is crashing down around us, the greeeen lobby drags out another bunch of fear mongering rubbish that things are much more serious than first thought and a new 80% carbon reduction will be required....LOL

The whole pretext of (sweeet) Caroline`s article, is that the next financial construct should have a greeen agenda.....if Caroline hadn`t noticed, it was already a greeeen agenda....the corporations were already hijacking the greeeen agenda. Rigged high energy was alowing high finance to invest in alledged greeeeeen technology. With a PRODUCT saturated West, new expensive layers of technology will need to be plied on a BRIANWASHED public.....you only have to hear what young children come out with.....its pure propaganda.LOL,LOL

Golly gosh, 718 characters left.LOL

Roland Baker
07 October 2008 at 22:03

Caroline Lucas is on the right lines. We became unsustainable all round, but the penultimate paragraph shows the dangers of speaking to a wider brief. Low interest rates favour investment financed by borrowing, but that money has to come from deposits made by savers. Low interest rates and inflation wipe out the people who have the money to lend.

We still have highly leveraged assets bought at inflated prices in the hands of borrowers whose loans exceed their value. No cuts in interest rates can be made until offerors have learned the value of those assets. There is no sign of that yet. Even so, the shopping bubble will blow as unemployment rises.

Investment must then be prioritised for business expansion including advancing the green agenda. Mortgages must first be restricted to 80% LTV on a crawling peg that reduces the maximum LTV as interest rates fall. Max LTV % = 100 - (100/interest rate). Special deposits at the Bank of England must be placed equivalent to any excess lending. Even before that, LIBOR has to be taken out of low earth orbit compared to the official base rate.

Airport and motorway expansion must be the first casualties of re-directing taxpayers' money to bail out financial failures. Had we spent 10% of it on building property for low income groups to rent, we would not be in this mess.

sweety
08 October 2008 at 03:52

Cor Blimey!

dobermanmacleod
08 October 2008 at 06:22

As improbable as it sounds, a new source of energy that is clean, cheap, abundant, and portable, will solve global warming and allow us to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions to near zero. Briefly, an electromagnet can produce more electricity than it uses. I strongly suggest you listen to the first 15 minutes of the radio interview posted on their website. They plan to introduce their product (a solid state power generator that produces energy 24/7 without burning any fuel) this year. In other words, global warming is solved, so stop with the expensive emission cut strategies. By the way, I have no connection with the company ( www.magneticpowerinc.com ), but I sure would like one of their solid state power generators, since you buy one and it lasts forever, and continually is producing electricity!

msaund73
08 October 2008 at 09:25

Dear Mr Jones, maybe before rubbishing a well argued article you should brush up on your facts.

Climate change is now mainstream and the science is so proven that governments, big business and scientists all agree that action is no longer optional.

Short term flulctuation, arguments about solar flares, volcanoes or agricultural emissions are nonsense. Take 5 minutes to browse this presentation given at a recent adaption conference.

http://www.oursouthwest.com/envec/archive/2-swccap-richard-c....

Do you believe AIDS is transmitted through sexual contact and not toilet seats, do you believe that the agricultural pollution is poisoning our rivers, do you that satellites are orbiting our planet, then you really should believe our scientists when they say this IS happening.

msaund73
08 October 2008 at 09:29

Carl please read this comprehensive presentation delivered to business heads, local authority chiefs and agency directors recently.

http://www.oursouthwest.com/envec/archive/2-swccap-richard-c...

Do you believe AIDS is sexually transmitted, do you believe satellites circle our planet, do you believe that agricultural pollution is transferred through our water tables into our rivers. Then you really should have faith in our scientists when they say that CC IS REAL ........end off!!

gcarth
08 October 2008 at 11:40

Carl Jones says: “Some of us humans have already come to terms with the idea that its our nature to exploit TOTALLY, and then move on.....I never saw an elephant stop to consider the consequences of trashing his next tree.”

But we are not elephants, Carl Jones. You are a cynical so and so to be sure - with a smart Alec, jaundiced view of life.

I’m frankly sick of seeing your numerous fatuous comments.

It may be YOUR nature or your friends’ nature to “exploit totally and then move on” but I assure you it is not everyone’s.

There IS a better way of life than exploiting others and that is to cooperate with others; to be less greedy, less obsessed with status and ego and to fight tooth and nail to push your kind of attitudes back into Mediaeval history where they belong.

nommo
08 October 2008 at 13:33

I have noticed that there are lot of people like Carl Jones around. Many of them used to work in financial services 'adding value' to the cash generated from digging and growing and other forms of exploitation for profit!

They need masses of 'sheeple' to feed off, and are understandably worried that all this financial transparency has left many 'average joes' wondering whether the game of 'pyramid poker' that we have all been playing actually has any merit.. especially if the wing-nuts who are holding the cards (and the chips) just intend to get off the planet and set up shop elsewhere with the pot.

Yes - that is ultimately the driving philosophy behind the 'exploit and move on' mentality... this is why they are all so keen on nuclear and other high-tech science (as opposed to wind turbines for example) - you aren't going to be able to send a luxury space SUV out of our solar system to begin terraforming with wind power eh?

What sickens me most about this mentality (apart from the fact they will be leaving the herd behind to rot) is the fact that they are quite willing to accelerate entropy on earth in order to get there quicker, all the while denying that humans play a meaningful part in the destruction of Gaia. And by that stage they are planning to be elsewhere.

God forbid that average joe actually does something about it! Speaking of God - what would Jesus do? Hmm - overturn a few tables methinks. What would happen if even God fearing sheeple work that out?! (as opposed to waiting for the second coming - the eschaton will be man-made!).

Personally - I like Earth. If we are going to terraform other planets (gaiasporing) - it would be nice to be able to escape the misery and holiday on the green (and blue) earth... so I propose we don't exploit totally and move on - I propose, like gcarth suggests, that we cooperate for the good of the human race, earth and possibly life as we know it.

We don't need 'profit' for this - all the resources exist anyway...

Carl Jones
08 October 2008 at 16:27

Just got in from a long day...5am start. To return to such humerous replies. I like the use of "proven"!LOL

If there`s one serious benefit from the current economic construct. The global warming scam has just fallen off the edge on the world!LOL

Now let just see who is going to be the first political party to pledge an 80% CO2 reduction target.LOL

I haven`t heard it in the MSM, but this must be one of the earliest Autumns for 20 years and you know what, my mother was talking with ,me on the phone the other day and made a point of telling me they`d had a proper frost....scraping ice off her car....another 20 year first where she lives.LOL

I keep asking this question....the British government is going to build new nuclear power stations and these will likely be sited on present NPS sites, how does this work with rising sea levels?LOL

Carl Jones
08 October 2008 at 19:01

msaund73, I believe your three science based statements, I also believe that AIDS is man made virus. According to Gary McKinnon the British hacker awaiting extradition to the US, they have a space fleet. I`m not so worried about the polution, although it is bad. No, Iam more worried about all the man made viruses which are released by the government. I remember the British professor who released startling data which higlighted depleted uranium levels as high as 400% above normal.....this was reported by the MSM, but one showed any interest. I wonder why?LOL

It is very unfortunate that scientists are forced to to follow the AGENDA set out by those who provide their funding. A few months ago there was a very large global warming conference in New York....thousends of scientists attended, but the MSM ignored the event, because they were highly sceptical of global warming science....well, global warming science which states that only humans are causing global warming.LOL

Carl Jones
08 October 2008 at 19:53

Gcarth; "fatuous".....we are digging deep.LOL

You are quite right and I NEVER REALISED IT, that we are not elephants. As I said, I never saw an elephant consider the consequnces before he trashes his next tree. As I understand CURRENT THINKING, we (humans) and animals, have very little control over the decisions we make. Much of what we do is inbuilt and that inbuilt reaction depends on ones particular enviroment, such as those who are interacting with you at a given point in time.

If you are facing the prospect of losing your home to the credit crunch, that person isn`t interested in much else, let alone the global warming scam, this is an example of the above. VERY few people plan ahead for some distant outcome. They knew about the current oil depletion in the mid 70`s (Hubbards Curve).....NOTHING WAS DONE.LOL

The real giveaway about alledged global warming, is that well financed scientists, corporations, the entire MSM and the elite controlled political class are all performing at the top of their game in respect of global warming.....amazing!lol 101 good causes ignored over the last 40 years and unproven global warming gets the perfect response, sorry, I don`t buy it, its not a natural response from the elite.

""YOUR NATURE"", don`t lecture me....I have asked Mr M. Lynas several times what he is going to do about cruise ships.....no reply!lol About two years ago the world largest cruise liner paid a visit to Southapton before heading off to Florida, not one UK MSM outlet questioned the sustainability of the cruising business.

I don`t exploit, I`m all for a cleaner world and a sustainable society. But I know about free energy technology suppression, I know that cars can be powered by just filling the tank with water, but thats far too easy, Oh no, we can`t have folk spliting water under the hood, no, we must sell them HYDROGEN.....its control, ordinary folk can`t do HYDROGEN at home. You can`t see the issues through your own desperation.LOL

gnuneo
09 October 2008 at 00:39

Anthro-GW is irrelevant - whether it is happening or not the human race MUST turn to locally based renewables, because the oil is running out, and even if it wasn't, any truly sentient species would turn from such an environmentally destructive source of energy.

(see the documentary "End of Suburbia")

low interest rates? Again irrelevant when compared to ownership of companies, any Green manifesto must also strongly sponsor local businesses, locally owned. Leaving the structure of ownership (and thus decision making) in the hands of the ultra-wealthy few, and just tweaking interest rates is the hole that would tear any Green innovations apart.

CJ: this is a beautiful planet of ours, and it is not a "cradle", but a fail-safe for our species. If we indeed "trash it and move on", what kind of social structure do you seriously imagine will be leaving the Earth? I can guarantee you it would not be one that is pleasant for the majority - and i doubt that free-thinkers such as yourself would be invited. On this one you are on the side of the Dragons (you know who i mean), and on this one you are entirely, disasterously wrong.

Carl Jones
09 October 2008 at 09:56

gnuneo, Earth "is not a cradle", sorry, but you don`t know that. However, it is agreed that our Sun has a finite life. Assuming human`s survive long enough (I am an optomist), then we will need to leave this place we call Earth. I did not inply that EVERYONE would get a ticket and I am no where near being a "dragon".

Just look at all the new building that has gone up in London over the last 20 years....where are the Greens on this? Why aren`t the greens pushing the government to incentivise businesses to have more home workers, or people working in local hubs where they will get company? This was an idea put forward 20 years ago.LOL

The greens are like private medical care, they take on the EASY. I`ve never heard Lynas talking ablut suppressed energy technology. I know that I come over as "negative", but I`m serious, everytime a Green sticks their head above the parapit, I will throw something at it. :)

gnuneo
10 October 2008 at 01:03

oh i agree with you to quite some extent about the Greens, they tend to have a very worrying lack of perspective, and lack the knowledge of how various disparate elements of a modern society fit together - and how they can be rearranged beneficially for us all. But that is why they are the 'Greens', and not say environmentally-strong 'Social Democrats'.

i appreciate them for what they *do* (which is to bring environmental consciousness into wider society), rather than what they are lacking. It is an all-too-likely scenario that a Green Govt, lacking in the fundamentals of Political Science but motivated by environmental change, would become radically totalitarian. Of course, the same is true of the Fabian Socialists of the Labour Party, and the neo-feudalists of the Tories and new-Labour.

as for "humans having to leave the planet " - lolz, if you imagine the human species will still be recognisable in 6-8 *BILLION* years from now, you do indeed take a very dim view of Evolution, or even technological advancement.

but where you really fell down was the notion that the human race can emigrate from this planet - the only possible way mass emigration could be (at least within the realm of possible technology as we can see it), is through the construction of Space Elevators. But the same mentality that is destroying this planet (trash and move on/devolve the environment into a richer carbon mix for the supposed benefit of the ruling Dragon aristocracy), has no intention of building them - it wants to create a society similar to the planet Solaria envisioned by Isaac Asimov.

http://www.sfreviews.net/nakedsun.html

i, hopefully needlessly to say, oppose them in this. I would *love* to be able to spend some time in space, or on a settlement on the Moon or Mars - but that will only be achieved through REAL democracy, social democracy, and through ensuring future generations have a stronger, healthier ecosystem under their feet.

gnuneo
10 October 2008 at 01:10

have you read the Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_trilogy

i would strongly recommend it.

Carl Jones
10 October 2008 at 21:45

Gnuneo; I didn`t mention mass space immigration. teleportation is already SCIENTIFIC FACT...it is early days, but the journey has started. You are lost in this "democracy thing", yet according to many, China is the future, but there is no indication they will become a democracy. India is the most racist nation on Earth, yet it claims to be Earths largest democracy.LOL

I avoid all fiction, my views are colored by the real world and my advanced ability (lol) to read between the lines (lies).

NWO military is at its peak, it is spead across huge swathes of our planet, the next chapter will soon be ready for publication, more war, or planned depopulation, or a combination of both....all good fun.LOL

Carl Jones
10 October 2008 at 22:15

gnuneo.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=9489

gnuneo
11 October 2008 at 03:59

CJ: re teleportation - if i remember correct, the Everett-Wheeler model of QM states that information (ie consciousness, as this is built into QM) can exceed C (speed of light), indicating that there is a possibility that 'we' will not need to move our physical bodies around. Food for thought.

as for democracy - there can BE no future without democracy, as systems become more complex (as our societies are doing) decision making must become closer to ground, else there is greater and great inaccuracy and inefficiency, this is a basic element of information theory. There is no way around it, modern, interconnected societies will inevitably head towards democracy in its true sense (not necessarily voting), or else they will collapse. Note that UK/US societies, as they have become less democratic in the last few decades, are now nose-diving rapidly. See the news for confirmation! ;)

china is also experiencing its own problems with a lack of democracy, and will either open up, or will also suffer the same fate as we are doing. It is certainly possible to run an economic model without democracy - the Nazi concentration camps for instance were productive - but compared to the output of say modern Danish social-democratic companies, the inefficiencies are grotesque.

for a very interesting analysis of India and Chinese economies and democracy, may i recommend the non-fiction book by the nobel-winning Amartya Sen 'freedom as development'.

about fiction - i have found during my life that fiction often has greater truths hidden within it than much non-fiction. Of course, as a democrat, i leave that choice up to you! ;)

i also, unfortunately, agree about the NWO - but there IS still time to pull back from the brink, if we do not, i wouldn't give much stock in human survival beyond the next couple of decades. I personally think that would be a shame, but the fact is is that it is entirely in our hands. We can evolve, or we can die out. Its as simple as that.

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Caroline Lucas is Green Party MEP for the South East England, and is running to be the first Green Party leader. She is also their parliamentary candidate for Brighton Pavilion.

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