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Mumbai massacre

Soumya Bhattacharya

Published 04 December 2008

India has suffered what many are calling its 9/11. Here one of the country's leading journalists introduces our nine-page analysis of the attacks, their aftermath and their implications for Britain and the world. We are hurt and angry, writes Soumya Bhattacharya, but even in our darkest hour we remain defiant. Plus read Richard Watson on how radicalised young men from over here continue to export terror

No entry: a soldier prevents people from going into the Taj Mahal Palace Hotel in Mumbai on 29 November after the last terrorist, holed up inside, had been killed

Mumbai massacre

In the summer of 2005, I moved with my family to live and work in Mumbai, the capital city of Maharashtra State. I came after living for several years in Kolkata, in the east of India, a city that, after decades of genteel dwindling and gradual reconciliation with its diminished sense of itself, was beginning to look up. As I settled down, I found Mumbai to be all the things that Kolkata was not.

If Kolkata was bashfully apologetic and self-deprecating, wry and ironical, Mumbai was brash and self-congratulatory. It was chest-thumpingly aware of its own importance and its position at the heart of India's rapid growth and change. The nation was being transformed by an economic miracle that had implications far beyond the Arabian Sea on whose edge the sprawling city of 19 million people was perched.

We found a flat in Bandra, a western suburb on the seafront. It was once predominantly a Christian locality, with many churches, and dotted with quaint cottages hugged by creepers. This was a neighbourhood in which, as Amit Chaudhuri wrote in his novel Afternoon Raag, the "Portuguese names - Pedro, DiSilva, Gonsalves - twang in the air like plucked, silvery guitar strings".

All that has changed over the past decade. Although it is only ten miles away, Bandra once seemed so far removed from the city's downtown (the area in which terrorists unleashed their audacious, murderous attacks) as to seem a place where you bought a weekend home. But now it is right in the heart of things.

Because outrageous property prices were pushing people ever further outward from the city's southern downtown tip (the business hub and centre of old money and aristocracy), Bandra had become the new midtown: nouveau riche, prohibitively expensive and fashionable in an edgy sort of way. The old cottages were being ripped apart, replaced by often ugly - but always lavish - towers of apartment blocks.

And now the soundtrack to our lives in Bandra, as in so much of Mumbai, is the relentless noise of old buildings being demolished and new ones going up: the clang of the hammer, the whine of the drill, the rumble of the bulldozer. Bandra is an embodiment of what Mumbai is now all about: wealth and social climbing, the need ostentatiously to proclaim that you have arrived.

The main Hindi film studios are not far from this neighbourhood, and most of the stars of the industry have moved out to Bandra, weary of the daily travel from downtown (where they once used to live) to the western suburbs (where they go to work). It isn't merely them. Anyone who wants to be in Bollywood is trying to move into Bandra as well, living far beyond their means in one-roomed flats little bigger than ten square feet. It is as though being in Bandra, close to the stars, takes away some of the sense of remoteness from their aspirations. Here they are, in the city of dreams, still dreaming.

In his novel Sacred Games, Vikram Chandra captured something of this feeling when he portrayed Mumbai as a city of magical possibilities: "It could happen. It did happen, and that's why people kept trying. It did happen. That was the dream, the big dream of Bombay."

Living in Bandra offers a sort of a start. If you can live here - and it is hard - who knows, you might soon find a role in a movie, a role that would put you on the billboards, like the stars you so admire but whose success you also resent. Bandra is Beverly Hills with terrible roads. Everywhere you go in the neighbourhood, there are reminders of the movie stars' presence.

Mumbai is in love with its own self-image and the awe it inspires in others; it has no patience with those in whom it does not inspire a sense of wonder. This is a city that exemplifies the new India: keen to inspire envy, in a hurry to get ahead, revelling in its importance and never shy of parading its not inconsiderable wealth.

Every week in the newspapers, there are reports of how Mumbai pays the most tax in India; how it has more billionaires than any other city; how its rentals and home prices are among the highest in the world; how it is getting richer and richer by the day. The business of making serious money drives Mumbai.

That business never lets up, even in the face of calamity. Mumbai is no stranger to catastrophe. In 1992, there were communal riots that threatened to rip apart for ever the secular fabric of this most cosmopolitan of Indian cities. In 1993, serial blasts tore through Mumbai, an event that has become the material for dozens of Hindi movies. In 2005, a month after I moved here, 934mm of rain fell in a 24-hour per iod, a world record. The deluge unleashed the worst floods in the city's history, killing hundreds and destroying thousands of homes and livelihoods. In 2006, bombs went off on the city's suburban train network, killing more than 200 people.

Mumbai has been repeatedly brought to its knees, and repeatedly it has picked itself up, and got on with life. There is a phrase that has become not so much a commonplace as a vulgar truism, one that people reach for as a shorthand to describe the city's indomitable nature: the spirit of Mumbai.

But something is different now. These latest attacks have truly shaken the spirit of the city.

This is what we know so far. The terrorists came by sea from Karachi, Pakistan. They were armed with enough guns, ammunition and explosives, and were sufficiently ruthless and well trained to be able to hold out for 62 hours against India's elite commandos and army. The terrorists held hostage two luxury hotels, the Taj Mahal and the Oberoi-Trident; the Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus, the city's main railway station; a cafe called Leopold's, popular with tourists and backpackers; and a five-storey residential building that housed the city headquarters of an ultra-Orthodox Jewish group. All the locations were in south Mumbai.

The strikes were timed to play out on worldwide daytime television. As the story of the attacks began to unfold from the night of 26 November in India, it coincided with Thanksgiving in the US. The terrorists were specifically looking for visitors with British or American passports. And at the end of the three-day killing spree and pitched gun battles, 173 people had been murdered. (That was merely the official count; the actual estimate of those killed is much higher.) Twenty of the dead were foreigners.

This year, many hundreds of people have been killed in terrorist attacks across India, in Jaipur, Hyderabad and Delhi. High-profile terrorism in cities (70 blasts and attacks) has killed 400 people in India over the past seven months alone. But the November assault on Mumbai suggested something not hitherto evident: that India was now firmly on the deadly map drawn up for attack by global jihadists.

After each of the previous attacks on Mumbai, people could begin to guess why they had happened. In this instance, there was obviously shock but there was also profound bewilderment and confusion. How exactly? And why?

India has been quick to insinuate that Pakistan is linked to the strikes. The one terrorist who has been caught and interrogated has told investi gators that he was trained by Lashkar-e-Toiba, a jihadist group based in Pakistan.

For ordinary people, however, there are no clear answers or explanations. No one can tell why this happened or when something similar might happen again. Stumbling and groping, Mumbai has had its sense of security and confidence eroded. Never before has the city so acutely felt its own fragility.

Of the five locations, it was the attack on the Taj Mahal hotel near the Gateway of India that was, in terms of symbolism, the most resonant. Mumbai's monuments are secular, and the 105-year-old Taj, built by a Parsi businessman because he was turned away from a hotel for being Indian, is the picture-postcard emblem of the city. It is to Mumbai what the Empire State Building is to New York and the Eiffel Tower is to Paris. It is Mumbai.

As pictures of the smoking hotel - flames leaping out of windows, panes shattering, crows taking off in the foreground at the sound of gunfire against the plumes of smoke that darkened the afternoon sky - flashed up on live television, and later, as the Taj Mahal closed down for repair on Monday, Mumbai saw the attack on its signature hotel as a violation unlike any other.

On Sunday 30 November, a groundswell of protests against the attacks began in Mumbai. There were candlelit vigils, marches and peaceful demonstrations with eloquent placards. The resentment, for the moment, seems to be directed at the perceived failure of the intelligence services and at politicians. In a nationwide survey conducted by the Hindustan Times, one of the country's best-known and most influential English-language broadsheet dailies, 84 per cent of the respondents felt that the government was not doing enough to fight terrorism.

With general elections due in 2009, the ruling coalition headed by the Congress Party bore the brunt of the anger. Shivraj Patil, India's home minister, stepped down on Sunday. By Monday morning, Maharashtra's home minister, R R Patil, had quit as well. The indications are that Vilasrao Deshmukh, the chief minister of Maharashtra, is on his way out, too.

How India will react to the attacks will shape the events of months and years to come. Already, the peace process with Pakistan is in jeopardy. And with India's dismal history of strife between Hindus and Muslims (in 2002, the main opposition party, the BJP, was accused of the biggest anti-Muslim pogrom in modern Indian history), the country will do well to be particularly vigilant against communal conflict.

Time and again over the past week, commentators have referred to the attacks on Mumbai as "India's 9/11" - a world-historic moment of change after which nothing can be the same again. That is indeed the most convenient analogy to use. But if one were to assume that it is so, that assumption brings its own complexities.

As the novelist Amitav Ghosh wrote in an essay published in the Hindustan Times: "If India can react with dispassionate but determined resolve, then 2008 may yet be remembered as a moment when the tide turned in a long, long battle . . . Defeat or victory is not determined by the success of the strike itself. It is determined by the response."

And what, now, of Mumbai? How will this city withstand these ravages and go about its business? How resilient can the city prove it- self to be?

Mumbai is the glittering exemplar of the new India and the national success story, yet it is also a city of dichotomies. Nowhere in India (perhaps even in the world) is the gulf between the affluent urban elite and those who live beneath the poverty line as pronounced as it is in Mumbai. Nowhere, perhaps, is the urge to cross over from the side of the underprivileged to the other as deeply consuming.

The degree to which these attacks have scarred Mumbai, and the extent of the damage they have inflicted, was symbolically represented on Thursday 27 November when the Bombay Stock Exchange did not open for trading. The business of making money might drive Mumbai, but the shock of being violated had stalled it.

The following Monday morning, still numbed, the city was returning to its frenetic self. Children went back to school. Hotels had been turned into fortresses. Offices were open, and the roads were filling up with the sort of traffic which is usually so dense that you can hear the conversation in the car alongside yours when you stop at traffic lights. Money was being made – and lost – on the stock exchange, as usual. Markets were doing business. And in homes, cremations or burials over, hundreds were beginning the process of grieving and reconciliation.

Mumbai, hurt and angry, was still grappling with how to come to terms with what had happened but it was also beginning to get on with the business of getting along, of going on.

In a way, this is the story of India, the world's largest democracy: learning to carry on after assaults on its pluralist democracy, and being, in the end, able to do so.

In his book India After Gandhi: the History of the World's Largest Democracy, Ramachandra Guha argues persuasively that it is no small triumph that India, as well as its democracy, not merely exists at all but continues to thrive. "India will go on," Guha quotes the novelist R K Nara yan telling V S Naipaul in the 1960s.

In its darkest hour, that is Mumbai's triumph, too. Mumbai will go on. As India will.

Soumya Bhattacharya is the editor of the Hindustan Times in Mumbai and author of the memoir "You Must Like Cricket?", published by Yellow Jersey Press (£12)

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27 comments from readers

FreedomLand
04 December 2008 at 11:10

"India will go on," (R K Narayan)..... that is Mumbai's triumph, too. Mumbai will go on. As India will..."

Oh, you will go on alright, those of you who survive a war with Pakistan. But what will a nuclear war leave??? You can forget about "cricket", uhh.

For both country's sakes, the people that is, I hope that both countries can finally resolve their own internal problames instead of what else could happen.

Neither civil wars nor a regional conflict are helpful to anyone except the Western jackals. Pakistan's arrogant politicians and India's incompetent politicians had better realize the stark possibilities NOW!

Camus
04 December 2008 at 17:28

"For ordinary people, however, there are no clear

answers or explanations. No one can tell why this

happened or when something similar might happen

again."

It would be a big contribution to common sense if the

bloggers who favour conspiracy theories would stay

quiet for a decade or two.

Gideon Polya
04 December 2008 at 21:20

There is likelihood of standard “divide-and –rule” US and UK state terrorism linkage to the Mumbai Atrocity.

Thus see Jeremy Hammond in a Foreign Policy Journal article entitled “The Mumbai attacks: more than meets the eye” sensibly raises the issue (see: http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/articles/2008/12/04/hamm... ): “As details emerge about who was responsible for the terrorist attacks in Mumbai last week, the evidence points to a militant group and network of associates that can be linked to a number of intelligence agencies, including the ISI, the CIA, and MI6 … While the evidence strongly points to LeT and a network of associates affiliated with the group or with each other, that web also includes the CIA and MI6 … Whatever the truth is, what is clear from the facts one is able to piece together from media accounts is that there is more to the Mumbai attacks than meets the eye.”

Similarly, outstanding Indian writer and historian Amaresh Misra (author of “The War of Civilizations” about the post-1857, British-effected, 10 million victim Indian Holocaust) has written cogently about “Mumbai Terror Attack : Further Evidence of the Anglo-American-Mossad-RSS Nexus” (see: http://www.countercurrents.org/misra031208.htm ), making some powerful points, e.g. : “1. Several terrorists might have been white . 2. Were they International mercenaries? If yes, then from which country? Who collected them? It is well known that Mossad and CIA have several mercenary organizations, including so-called Jihadi ones on their list. They create Jihad and manipulate Muslims disaffected by the Islamophobia in the world. Some of them might have been used in the Mumbai attack.”

Professor Michel Chossudovsky in “India’s 9/11. Who was behind the Mumbai attacks?. Washington is fostering political divisions between India and Pakistan” (see: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11217 ) describes CIA links to ISI and jihadis.

radius
04 December 2008 at 23:43

The historical links between the CIA, ISI and jihadis is well known, but the situation is somewhat more complicated in the present.

Violent Islamism is an ideology in its own right, it is silly to see it as a simple manifestation of Mossad/CIA manipulation.

sweety
05 December 2008 at 00:47

The historical links between the CIA, ISI and jihadis is well known, but the situation is somewhat more complicated in the present.

The Editors of the New Statesman should be ashamed of themselves letting the above comments stand.

1920
05 December 2008 at 03:23

From the carnage of the last century to today's Mumbai- one thing is ignored i.e. that this nonsense is done by men . It is taken for granted that men have an emotional life like that of a toddler and cannot help acting out all their negative feelings at the drop of a hat. We see this in the west in the figures for spousal abuse and the killing and rape of women-- it also is the case in other cultures . There will be no end to "terror " unless the "Elephant in the Room " is dealt with

Carl Jones
05 December 2008 at 11:29

Censorship is sweet.LOL

Carl Jones
05 December 2008 at 12:05

You see, THEY don`t like it, when you take THEIR alledged facts, messaged to you via a complicit MSM and then join them up, resulting in the TRASHING of their PROPAGANDA MESSAGE.

No abuse, no racism, no anti-semitism (wot ever that it), no, just their own MSM messages being turned on them, the NWO criminals. This is why I was blocked from commenting last night and today I have been censored and the NS is either complictly doing this, or maybe they have no choice??

Welcome to the British fascist police state.

Camus
05 December 2008 at 17:37

I expressed the hope that the conspiracy fanatics would stay away - I have just checked out two of the links from Gideon Polya. They are the usual blggers pradise now stuff. Plenty of vague claims and very little substance. Carl: I have read some of your posts and find them quite bewildering. What is it that you want us to read and why do you believe that Britain is a fascists state?

me
05 December 2008 at 18:04

sweety,what are you on about! its a discussion aint it?

I think we should take a look at the outcome of this current situation.Since 9/11 all this has come out in the open(i had'nt heard of jihad etc prior)and it seems to be getting more common as the weeks/months go on.

If these people get nukes do you think they will use them???

Carl jones i dont know about NWO or British fascist police(if they have censored you thats shocking)but why is there no discussion about things that i think will be coming upon this country/world?Are the people in power scared of truth?

India will go on for the time being,but what if its a suitcase nuke or something like that next time?What if it happens to N.Y. or london?

Seems to me that all we do is discuss the effect and not the the ways to a solution,is it that there is no solution?

writeon
05 December 2008 at 21:08

Obviously the carefully orchestrated terror attack on Mumbai was part of a conspiracy to harm India as much as possible. So conspiracies do exist in the real world. Conspiracies can be very effective. Not all conspiracies are pure fantasies only existing in the minds of the paranoied or deranged.

The really important question, is, in my opinion, who is behind this attack and why? Clearly the idea was to kill as many people as possible, destroy as much as possible, gain publicity and rock India to its core, but why? Who really gains from such a bloody exercise?

If the terrorists were armed and trained in Pakistan by rogue elements of the Pakistani military or ISI, then this has serious implications. Do elements in Pakistan want a war with India, now before India becomes too strong and begins to really benefit from its alliance with the United States?

Who will benefit from chaos in Pakistan? Is the plan designed to use India to destroy Pakistan and neutralize its Islamic nuclear arsenal? Is India being manipulated as wel and not just Pakistan, and if so, by whom? Or is it all just a mess, with no rhyme or reason, and only fanaticism and madness at its heart?

Gideon Polya
05 December 2008 at 21:14

The Mumbai atrocity has similarities to 9/11 in that a huge number of people were murdered; the beneficiaries were the UK, US and Israeli imperialism and hegemony ; the Mainstream media are certain in accepting the UK, US and Israeli version of who was responsible; and critical scientific hypotheses about responsibility and complicity are dismissed as "conspiracy theories" and subject to censorship.

Thus, by way of example, on this thread I offered, with links, the sensible and expert opinions of Jeremy Hammond (Foreign Policy Journal); Amaresh Misra (outstanding Indian writer and historian; his important book entitled "War of Civilizations: India AD 1857" on the post-1857 massacre of 10 million Indians by the British was launched by the Vice-President of India in New Delhi on March 07, 2008: http://vicepresidentofindia.nic.in/photo42.asp ); and Professor Michel Chossudovsky (outstanding humanitarian Canadian economist, University of Ottawa, and editor for the Centre for Research on Globalization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky ).

Yet uncredentialled, anonymous bloggers have responded, respectively, with unsubstantiated, inexplicit dismissal of these expert scholarly opinions and unsubstantiated, inexplicit call for censorship of the same expert scholarly opinions.

Indeed my carefully referenced and linked response to the call for censorship was subsequently CENSORED without explanation.

A significant difference from 9/11 is the survival in custody of one of the perpetrators who (according to Media reports) has confessed that his impoverished Punjabi family would be paid a huge sum (in Third World terms) after his death - evidence of an effective recruitment device by the real beneficiaries (see "Mumbai Atrocity revelations": How UK, US and Israeli state terrorists can run Muslim-origin non-state terrorism": http://gideon.sulekha.com/blog/post/2008/12/mumbai-atrocity-... ).

Carl Jones
06 December 2008 at 00:43

Camus, I have been censored for using NWO MSM facts....just think about that. I don`t know what points in my comment that they don`t like, but the Mumbai CCTV is VERY dodgy...wasted bullets, poor shooting and little desire to take life, why were the gunmen shooting at a station wall hitting it 10ft off the ground? Yes, these were well trained terrorists....yawn.

zindadil
06 December 2008 at 05:32

you and me all know that this is the handi work of the BJP, underworld and the Indian armed forces.

The pragya case was gaining momentum and many more were going to apprehended and hence the BJP to save their skin had to eliminate the ATS officers. The underworld was sick and tired of these officers and hence they too joined hands with BJP and created a scene such that no one can think it's their work

LET want Kashmir.....why come to Mumbai, worst come worst Gujarat for the 2002 Massacre.

Pragya was being tried in Mumbai for Malegaon case. BJP want Pragya and the Militant Military officers freed and not charged.

Underworld want Mumbai and want to run the business without any hinderence. They wanted no encounters from the police.

Local politicians joined hands and yes this happened.

Sharon McEachern
07 December 2008 at 01:10

Congratulations Soumya Bhattacharya! What a wonderfully reported and written article. I learned so much more than any of the other media articles provided. Did you know you were quoted and linked by the Ethic Soup blog in the U.S,, where there is another excellent article on the aftermath of the Mumbia attacks, particularly India's Muslims refusal to allow burial of the 9 dead Muslim terrorists in India . To read, go to:

http://www.ethicsoup.com/2008/12/indian-muslims-refuse-mumba...

Sharon McEachern

fairplay
07 December 2008 at 02:23

whoever was responsible, its still a tragedy. however, blaming pakistan is a farce. i dont recall anyone blaming the irish government when the ira bombed anywhere. if these so called terrorists did this unaided then no-one but the terror group is to blame. pakistan have nothing to gain by this. the US do though. they have been stoking the fire for months and would like nothing more than indias complicity in strikes against its neighbour.

any murder investigator will tell you that the first thing they look for is a motive. what motive did these people have?

whatthe
07 December 2008 at 05:55

The first thing murder investigator look at in a crime scene is the man standing over the body with a bloody knife saying "I'm glad I killed the bastard" and in this case the indian police have at least one captured terrorist who saying just that. There motive is that of all terrorist from the ira to the red brigade. They believe if they generate enough fear there enemy will give up and give them what the want. This reasoning is of course nuts but that the point, terrorist are nuts that why there a so few of them.

Oh and my I ask you what possible advantage does the mumbai attacks have for the us uk mossad state terrorist nwo lizard men satanworshipers etc. The attack is most likely going to aid the bjp coming to power which is against the nuclear deal america has worked out with the encumbandt congress party and war between india and pakistan will lead to a strenghting of the taliban through a end to attacks on there position in northern pakistan by the pakistan army. Or is this just youre classic if its bad its america work argument. Another decade of paranoid fantasism and you'll all be blaming them for earth quake and given you cattle warts.

Also Amaresh Misra is not a outstanding historian he is a film critic who has become a hack history writer.

To give you one example he actually argued that mutineer did not kill british women and children during the mutiny but the british deliberatly slaughtered there own women and children just so they could blame the mutineer for it.

fairplay
07 December 2008 at 09:44

you will be telling us the US government has never overthrown a democratically elected parliament next. lol

and by the way, a strengthening taliban would be just what they want. its good for business - the arms business. ie a contnuing war. i wouldnt have thought of that one TBH but there are hidden agendas everywhere. watthe, maybe youve just solved the puzzle. well done

i'm off to sleep in my nuclear bunker now. nighty night

writeon
07 December 2008 at 14:09

I don't think terrorism is an ideology. It's a tactic in a form of warfare. "Shock and Awe" was a massive form of state terrorism visited on the defenceless country of Iraq.

Whilst terrorists aren't "nuts" they are apparently very gullable, even though they think they are cynics. Historically the vast majority of terrorist groups or gangs have been intimately linked with the intelligence services of states, whether they are aware of this or not, clearly it's preferable that they don't know who they are working for or to what untimate ends.

Christ, Pakistan's politics is a dangerous labyrinth, complex and a daunting study. Mix in India and the interests of the West too, and one has cocktail of head-spinning and contradictory complexity. Nothing, is as it seems as first glance. In fact there's a rule of thumb one can employ. It's often declared that the first draft of history appears in the press. The first version of the story is usually perceived as the most important or the "truth." However, this first draft, is more often than not - simply wrong and almost always the exact opposite what really happened and the truth. So one should be extremely wary and sceptical, especially if one relies on the controlled Western media, who have their own agenda in relation to Muslim countries.

My personal take is that "official" Pakistan wasn't directly behind these attacks. This would have been an extraordinarily reckless adventure/attack for no substantive gain. I doubt that India attacked itself in a classic "false flag" operation in order to find an excuse to go to war with Pakistan.

If it isn't Pakistan or India, then who gains from the attacks? I think it's people who want to weaken both Pakistan and India by setting them at each others throats. I think the West is behind the attacks. The longterm goal is the Balkanization of the entire region and especially Pakistan, which is clearly being destabilized. Whether this is sane or intelligent strategy, is another question

nickpr53
07 December 2008 at 14:42

India's response, you are right to point out, will define the future of the peoples of india and pakistan. There will be no nuclear war, but a conflict of a remotely significant scale may destablize india's trouble neighbour... and transfomr it for the worse, into a haven for terrorism... to the loss of both giants. I hope India can see through this. I hope Pakistan also sees this risk. Mumbai's secuirty is lacking of course (http://www.spinwhip.com/mumbai shows it best) but the time is not for war.. it's for cooperation and mutual help towards greater prosperity and tolerance.

writeon
07 December 2008 at 18:54

To answer my own question, which I was silly to put; the West's policies are destabilizing the entire region; from Iraq, through Afghanistan, into Pakistan and now India as well. Is this just crass stupidity, imperial arrogance, or something more sinister?

I don't think it's just stupidity and incompetence, though the British love this interpretation, as the alternative is so unpleasant. In Britain, complacency, an ironic distance in the face of danger is a national trait, but it's going to become more difficult as things in the region slide towards chaos and even more conflict.

India and Pakistan despite their historic differences have a great deal of shared history and culture. They are stronger working together for mutual development, than fighting each other, pawns in a far bigger struggle for dominantion of Eurasia and its natural resources. Why should India and Pakistan castrate each other for the benefit of the West? This would be stupidity on a historic scale. Isn't this exactly what happened to the sub-continent when it was invaded by the British and the French? Instead of uniting against a common enemy, the Western invaders, the "Indians" wasted resources fighting each other and forming alliances with the foreign invaders, and for whose benefit? Are the people of India and Pakistan going to follow this road again? India and Pakistan should let the Americans fight their own wars and keep out of them.

Also what happens to race relations in Britain if the situation worsens? After Mumbai the British press was full of scare stories about British radical Muslim involvement in the attacks and the consequences for British Muslims. These stories were all false, pure fabrications, reckless. Who put these stories in the press? Was this just another British bungle, or was it more sinister? We are living in dangerous times.

Deano
08 December 2008 at 17:56

There are simple and quite obvious reasons behind any terorism. Trying to make it complicated is an effort devised to mislead and distract the world's attention from the basic causes. INJUSTICE, remove it and you go a long way in removing the terrorism, which is simply a cry to attract attention to the injustice. Take Palestine or take Kashmir, both are prime examples of injustice being perpetrated for decades. UN resolutions to solve these problems have been willfully ignored by the occupiers, who have the muscle and influence to do so. Why can't there be less hypocracy in the world leaders who have the necessary power but lack the conscience to see a peaceful world. Pressure on the combatants to implement the UN resolutions, hence removing the bone of contention, will see the emergence of faith in the world powers and a resultant somewhat peaceful world. Live and let live.

Deano

Deano
08 December 2008 at 18:07

There are simple and quite obvious reasons behind any terrorism. Trying to make it complicated is an effort devised to mislead and distract the world's attention from the basic causes. INJUSTICE, remove it and you go a long way in removing the terrorism, which is simply a cry to attract attention to the injustice. Take Palestine or take Kashmir, both are prime examples of injustice being perpetrated for decades. Lands occupied by force against the wishes of the local people. UN resolutions to solve these issues have been willfully disregarded by the occupiers, who have the muscle and influence to do so. Why can't there be less hypocracy in the world leaders who have the necessary power but lack the conscience to see a peaceful world. Pressure on the combatants to implement the UN resolutions, hence removing the bone of contention, will see the emergence of faith in the world powers and a resultant somewhat peaceful world. Live and let live. As simple as that. Don't let the distractors mislead you. Its in their interest to cloud the issues.

Mumbai incident is simply a cry for attention to the plight of the Kashmiris. It is so obvious and clear. Why can't the world politicians see that and do something about it in stead of choosing a blame game.

Deano

fairplay
08 December 2008 at 20:19

Mumbai incident is simply a cry for attention to the plight of the Kashmiris. It is so obvious and clear. Why can't the world politicians see that and do something about it in stead of choosing a blame game.

because all world politicians and their puppetmasters see in these tragic events are opportunities

sweety
09 December 2008 at 01:58

I was edited out just for complaining about the editors, wisdom. This magazine is nothing without the comments. Carl is sort of writer,the Chinese would incarcerate in a mental hospital. I have no experience of the Raj, beyond Paul Scott's iconic, masterpiece waiting to be rediscovered by future generations.. I do have a bad, memory, as a schoolboy,looking at photos of Indian Soldiers bayonetting muslim rapists to death in a Dacca, park. The egging on by a crowd of muslims/hindus, of hindu soldiers, had a profound effect on me.Thinking that our government, of the time seemed to be encouraging these people to settle here. Such is the immature, nurtured NHS. mind!

Kashmir has nothing exclusively, to do with Pakistan or Muslims! The muslims have ethnically cleansed the main valley!

Unite all the sub continent once again and let the secular masses have their voting rights if democracy is the key here.

Carl Jones
09 December 2008 at 21:42

"Carl is the sort of writer, the Chinese would incacerate in a mental hospital".

All elites are scared of the TRUTH. This is the reason why I am constantly censored. Mumbai is a NWO construct.

aflatoon
10 December 2008 at 00:17

the tragedy at bombay nee mumbai is beoynd words.who did it and why it was done is all a matter of conjecture or deabate;but it is clear from where did the attackers and killers come.at least the govt of that land owes a responsibility not only towards its own citizens but towards the citizens of its neighboours.is there any govt there worth the name.it is a tragdy that they are fighting a war against their neighbours who are their own kith n kin at the proddings and arm twisting of the greatest terror mongering powers on this earth.but they should realise that they will have to pay a v heavy price for doing acts of inhumanity towards their own citizens and neighbourhood.they must spend their energies towards improving their own lot than being a partners in an unjust war. Instead of wasting their energy on a criminal acts which can be solved by other means they r indulging in unnecessary killings and violence they must see what is happening in thier backyard and who is the individual or group hell bent upon destroying the peace of the region.if they burn india will their houses be safe.it is high time the rulers of pakistan look at themselves and n try to undo the damage done to salvage some sort of self esteem which they are losing.

the group of individuals who are playing the game of their white masters must realise that they will be used and once they have played with fire they wil be also consigned to the flames and transformed to ashes.this is the rule of the game from time immemorial.hatred does beget hatred .using religion for the dirty end is v irreligous act.so what they are up to.do they not realise their time of reckoning has come. aflatoon india

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