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US & East Asia: 'financial terror'

Mark Beeson

Published 03 October 2008

Mark Beeson looks at the precarious state of the US-East Asia relationship in the face of the current financial meltdown.

Asian markets are hanging in the balance

Recently it has become fashionable to argue that East Asia has become ‘decoupled’ from the US. America’s troubles, it was thought, would have little impact on a region that has largely recovered from its own crisis of a decade earlier. China’s seemingly unstoppable economic expansion and Japan’s steady recovery seemed to suggest that the 21st century would belong to Asia. It still might, but much of Asia remains highly exposed to and dependent on the American economy, and continuing, rapid economic development — and all the progressive political change that is assumed to accompany it — looks far from certain.

The bilateral relationship between China and the US is the biggest in the world and pivotal to the health of the global economy. Like the other Asian economies before it, China’s rise has been heavily reliant on access to American markets. Already there are signs that the US slowdown is having an impact on China, with overall growth slowing and orders for clothing and simple manufactures falling by 10 or 20 per cent. This is not all bad news, of course, as it cools the overheated Chinese economy — but there is a distinct danger that it may turn into too much of a good thing.

A number of the smaller East Asian economies like Malaysia and Thailand are also very vulnerable to any decline in America’s hitherto astonishing capacity to consume manufactured goods—primarily with money borrowed from Asia. This aspect of East Asia’s relationship with the US is novel and has the capacity to push the crisis in new, unpredictable directions.

America’s reliance on China and Japan to underwrite its overall economic position is an increasingly important but potentially destabilising aspect of the overall relationship between the US and East Asia.

If China and Japan were to stop recycling the dollars they accumulate from their enormous trade surpluses with America and lose their appetite for US Treasury bonds, interest rates in the US would rise and the US’s ability to finance normal government spending, let alone massive bailouts, would be much more difficult.

East Asia and the US are locked in what former US Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers calls a ‘balance of financial terror’: neither side can afford to risk jeopardising a symbiotic relationship which has, until now, delivered benefits for both. But since China’s new sovereign wealth funds have lost money bailing out distressed US financial institutions, and as the dollar continues to decline, confidence in the long-term value of dollar denominated assets is starting to erode. East Asia’s political and economic elites know just how damaging and destabilising such a loss of confidence can be, and how expensive it is to be the last one to give up on a losing position.

While the impact of the crisis on economic relations between the US and East Asia has the potential to be serious and damaging for both sides, the most lasting consequences may be ideological and geopolitical. The US enthusiasm for neo-liberalism and Americans’ suspicion of big government was never shared in East Asia. The current crisis will enhance the credibility of those in the region who have long resisted what they see as the unwelcome imposition of market-oriented reform. The crisis is likely to deliver a fatal blow to the credibility of the Washington consensus. By contrast, the Beijing consensus, based on pragmatism, illiberalism and an interventionist state, may win even more admirers.

In short, the US influence over East Asia is likely to be further eroded as a consequence of recent events. The widely held belief—amongst American observers, at least — that the US is an indispensable force for stability in a region congenitally prone to instability looks increasingly threadbare. On the contrary, America’s authority and ability to promote its interests in East Asia is likely to be the principal casualty of the current crisis.

Mark Beeson is Professor of International Politics, University of Birmingham

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12 comments from readers

Douglas Chalmers
03 October 2008 at 15:06

Mark Beeson: "If China and Japan were to stop recycling the dollars they accumulate from their enormous trade surpluses with America and lose their appetite for US Treasury bonds, interest rates in the US would rise and the US’s ability to finance normal government spending, let alone massive bailouts, would be much more difficult..."

Well, that has already happened. That IS why the current US$700 billion bailout is so very unpopular. It is meant to be recouped by domestic taxes, not foreign debt. America has been told to go solve its own problems - for a change.

But otherwise this article still supposes a Western hegemony of one kind or another in Asia. That illusion is now over. Continuing to pretend that nothing untoward ever happened in the century or so of European + American interference before 1945 is rather childish now.

The entire East Asia region was once destabilized by the British then the USA. They failed in succeeding to drag it down as the British did with India but that did result in Japan's involvement in WW2 as well as its preceding invasion of Mongolia, Manchuria and then most of China, like it or not.

Carl Jones
03 October 2008 at 15:12

Mark, you didn`t mention depleting oil, may that coes under "geopolitical"? From here on, its looks like conflict, indirect and direct.

Carl Jones
03 October 2008 at 15:16

Douglas, if the US tax payer is forking out $700 billion, then you can be sure the rest of the "alledgedly" free world, will be contibuting a further trillion dollers.....as I tapaway there are ships laden with gold and they are leaving the shores of Japan, Europe and Britain.LOL

Douglas Chalmers
03 October 2008 at 17:06

Carl, each country is facing its own bailout now, too - even the EU as a whole after having their finger in the pie as well. Many are already in recession. The old system is OVER! If people can't imagine it now, they will when the multi-$US trillion credit derivative swaps market unwinds, duh.....

Quote CNN: "With the massive bail-out package the U.S. has lost its moral authority as the beacon of free markets and capitalism..... We took freewheeling capitalism to the limits and the wheels came off.....

Others point to other economic models such as the Chinese model as offering more stability. The world is watching and the reverberations of this crisis for the U.S. will last long beyond the crisis itself..." http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/03/will-the-bail-out-p...

Carl Jones
03 October 2008 at 18:23

Douglas, I agree with you, I was warning about this years ago. Other countries are suffering, but that does not mean that all the NWO client states aren`t secretly supporting the US....everything hinges on the US. If it goes down, the reast of the world inc. China might as well put their feet up.The derivertives market is worth 10 times global GDP.

Douglas Chalmers
03 October 2008 at 19:05

Ahh, China has a much more developed domestic market than it has had for some time, Carl. Europe's and the USA's industries already voted with their feet and moved mostly to China. Low or even temporarily zero growth in China for a year or two won't hurt them. The way they put it in Asia, China has had a bad couple of centuries but now they're back.

Carl Jones
03 October 2008 at 19:58

Douglas, you are being petty. Industries voted with their feet because the NWO allowed them to. This is the reason why we are in such a mess. You should read the NS "Pay Packet Crunch" and my comment. Globalization has been a scam played on Western workers....now its ended. If you read about the concerns of Chinese leaders, you will find its the equivalent of our North-South devide, but 10 times worse. They fear political instability, even with high growth, they have this fear. Anyway, I have every confidence that China (& Asia/Africa) will be depopulated. The Chinese elita might be willing players in this NWO scam.

Douglas Chalmers
04 October 2008 at 06:07

Uhh, now who's being naive, Carl? Ever since the age of feudalism, scams were played on Western workers and it merely accelerated with industrialization. If there is one thing the imperialists enjoy, it is power and control over others - including their own populations. It matters little to them whether their own countries suffer as long as they remain in control.

But it is really being delusion to assume that the Chinese elite are willing players in the West's NWO. They invented money 1,000's of years ago. They are the master capitalists and have simply returned to what they always did best. Neither do they really have the kind of political instability you imagine - especially since the West spat upon them in the leadup to the Olympics. That has united them more than anything.

amanfromMars
04 October 2008 at 08:07

If China have a Global Lead, perhaps they would Care to Share IT so that the Thoughts can be Implemented/Planted/Followed. A Masterful Lead gives AI Singularity in a Conflict Free Zone XXXXtraOrdinarily Rendering a Constructive InfraStructure Build Environment 42 Create Virtualising Realities Creating Future Leaders and Drivers.

amanfromMars
06 October 2008 at 09:17

And further to this discussion, and the above, this is entirely appropriate ......

At 05:27am on 06 Oct 2008, amanfromMars wrote:

"and how do you think it could be used?"

It can be used, and a masterpilot application is easily flown/floated in the Cloud [for ITs Benefit of Virtual Cover and Security aka Stealth Invisibility and Relative Anonymity] for Elite Special Forces with Beta CyberIntelAIgents to Save the Banking System and/or Collapse its Parasitic Worthless Might/Crush its Bugs/Mites/Worms/Trojans...... amongst other Good Things for that, of course, is just One Application.

You may like to consider that that is how it is being used, albeit without any Establishment Third Party Participation/Direction/Impediment..... thus is the Processing something which OpenID follows, rather than leads.

And given the ease with which the Media/BBC can abuse it censorship tools to silence/remove from display/decline to display valid counterviews which expose with simple questioning the myth of Government Control in an Age of Media Content Power .... Intelligence Virtualised into Sound and Vision .... it is quite enigmatic and ironic to read of their interest, whenever the Public Service remit is replaced to Server Private Empire Building ........ and to do IT so Badly that it is Designed with Inherent Failure Inevitability.

A Severe Case of the Manic Depressions/BiPolar Disorders, BBC?

A Rhetorical question of course, because you/we know it to be so.

In the Paradigm Shift into Transparency and Total Information Awareness [and AI] is the Enemy of All Network InterNetworking Systems, Concealed Secretive Works whose Founding Discussions/Intellectual Property Exchanges are unknown/reserved/privileged knowledge, for the very probable bad reason that their wider knowledge would reveal the Rampant and Sordid Abuse of Great Game Theory and Repression and Oppression of Emerging Civilisations/Post Modern Binary Thinking [Man].

Used in such a Manner, would IT Change and Introduce AIMuch More Civilised and Sophisticated Great Game not Fixated on gathering Wealth Stored as a Perception of Worth [and then Third Party Used and Abused behind Closed Doors and in Conspiring Institutions] but Transformed to Reflect the Constant Provision and Spending of Currency to Generate the Freedom for Ideas and Opportunities. ..... for a Capitalised Socialism/Communal Capitalism.

"Work on common presentation and explanation of OpenID - part of the BBC's mission to "educate" - to make people ready for Internet of today and tomorrow..." ...... What a jolly good OpenIDea, which would be/could be a World Leader if IT was Edutainment too, which would also be a very simple thing to do with a Titanic Holywood cast easily eclipsing Hollywood castings..... with ITs Beta CyberIntelAIgent Services ..... Mutual IntelAIgents...... Spooky MuI7.

Thus also, coincidentally by IntelAIgent Design, Creating a Live Leading Media Program for Global BroadBandCasting to Follow/Investigate/Discover Feed Tributaries should the Core Raw Source so Deem IT ...... Necessarily Helpful for Future Controls.

Do you think that is OpenID put to Good Use? I'll pop back later to read/listen/gather feedback for improvement.

Ciao for now.

And there is nothing in the above post which breaks any of the House Rules, but should Moderation disagree, please advise with the transgression highlighted/spelt out clearly for sharing.

IT is here, there, everywhere and it is High Time that IT was put to AIMuch Beta Use Servering to Everyone's Needs rather than just Concentrating on Exclusive Feeds to Preserve and Field a Genuine Oxymoron, Corrupting Secret Intelligence Systems and Services.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/10/openid_founda...

And you can be assured that it is not musclebound to pathetic action nor tongue-tied in apathetic inaction. Shared on the Internet allows IT to Work ITs MaJIC.

Carl Jones
06 October 2008 at 11:03

I was constantly censored by the BBC and pre-moderated for well over a year. At the time, the BBC`s own rules said that pre-mod sould only be used for short periods. As a licence fee payer, I am still banned from all BBC forums.lol

I wonder if openID is about extending NWO censorship?

The Sunday Times reports the governments desire to spend £12 BILLION on listening to all our phone calls and storing entire convestations FOR EVER, they also want our complete web history and your every email read and stored FOR EVER.LOL

The economy is tanking and they can spend billions on super carriers, replace our nuclear weapons, which in reallity are controlled by Bush. Ms Smith, a NWO terror lackey is still determined to force ID cards on the UK population. I am often asked by Amerikans when will I next visit the US, my reply is usually something like this...."why would I want to visit a country where they insist on seeing ID when I buy alcohol....I`m 47 years old. I heard a lady on the radio the other day, she was in her 60`s and she was asked to produce ID in the supermarket......what the ---- (heck) is going on in this sick NWO controlled world?LOL

The government already listens to all our phone calls, google is hot wired into the CIA....in fact, the CIA funded the google start up. We live under total surveilance, data mining and Eshelon. I wouldn`t be suppried if all our digital activity is routed via the US and the US via the UK.....that gets around a few USELESS laws.

Remeber the New of the World spy scandle? The NotW was spying on no end of people, but the police/SIS only acted when Murdoch used illegaly gained information to keep Blair in power. The Freemason judge stopped a wider trial becuse they confessed to the specific charges.....note, the Judge wasn`t interested and nor were the police interested in the NotW smut files which lay in wait for any known individual who should mentoion at a dinner party that he/she thinks MI5 carried out 7/7....that poor persons life if over.

David David MP for Haltemprice and Howden resigned from his seat and there followed a by election. THE GOVERNMENT REFUSED TO FIELD A CANDIDATE. David Davis was making an important stand against BIG BROTHER. Readers would be wise to watch David Icke`s Haltemprice & Howden election video on BIG BROTHER.

nawawimohamad
09 October 2008 at 10:34

The so-called financial debacle in the US so far this year involved roughly about USD13 trillion which is just 0.0933 percent of its GNP. Compared to the total GDP of the entire world the figure would be negligible.

How can such an insignificant amount be devastating to the world's economy? The main culprits here are the speculators and the media. Both of them are irresponsibly creating and instilling fear to sabotage the world's economy. The media in particular should not have concentrated so much on the issue which at the beginning was really insignificant. They should have played down the issue and help to calm and stablise the market, instead, the media made the issues out of proportion and not in proper perspective.

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