The NS Interview: Tracy Emin
"I don’t need a life model, I am my life model”
By Sophie Elmhirst Published 14 October 2010What are you trying to convey on the NS cover?
That art and culture are dead - it's the state that Britain is in financially after 30 years of ill-considered government. The tragedy is that it's the arts that have kept Britain afloat during this fucking drought. And it's the arts that are the first things to get slashed.
Do you blame Labour?
I think Labour was appallingly shit towards the arts. People like Andy Burnham, they're philistines. This sounds snobby, but in the Tory party - Jeremy Hunt and Ed Vaizey - they know about art. I'm having lunch with them; they're in touch with artists.
How did you vote in the last election?
I voted for the Conservatives. I live in a democracy; it's up to me who I vote for. We've got the best government we've ever had.
Have you always been a Tory?
It's not about party politics; it's about the individuals. I think Margaret Thatcher should be tried for crimes against humanity.
So how do you engage in politics?
The best thing to do is to vote for the best thing for yourself and then make the country a better place, not vote for old-fashioned, out-of-date ideals that don't work in Britain any more.
What is the purpose of art?
Art is the soul of all countries. If you rip that away, they become nebulous, moronic societies.
How did you know what kind of artist you wanted to be?
I didn't want to be a debutante having a day out. I wanted my art to make a difference, to show people, especially women, that you can be an
artist. You don't have to be a man with a beard.
Was it difficult to become established?
I left school at 13, so to get into university was a bloody triumph. It's always been a struggle.
Why is your own life your principal subject?
I don't need a life model - I am my life model. I've drawn what I know.
Has your celebrity overshadowed your work?
It's a big thing, as a female artist, to be recognised in the street. It isn't normal. But I make a living out of my art. It's my vocation. I'm not
a celebrity.
Is there a side of your art that you feel has been ignored?
I've made work about God and love, but it's sex, sport and scandal that sell. If I'm going to put my dirty knickers on my bed, what do I expect? But just because I'm provocative doesn't mean that people have to go around raping me.
Is that what it feels like?
Yes. When you read the newspaper and it says, "She's nothing but a media whore," you think: "No, I'm not. And they're putting me on the front cover, so they're the pimps."
Is integrity lacking in contemporary art?
Matisse lived in the south of France and he hung out with the Vichy party. For me, Matisse misses a few notes for that. Being an artist, you have a responsibility for your art, but you also have a responsibility for being a correct person.
How do you maintain integrity in your work?
You're presuming that I have integrity. A lot of people wouldn't.
Do you feel critics have been unfair to you?
People aren't cruel about my work; they're cruel to me. But I'm bigger than them. I'm tougher than that.
Is your legacy important to you?
I don't have children and I'll never have children. I don't have a partner. I'm weird. It's about self-preservation and understanding that there's only one person who's going to look after you, and that's yourself.
How do you want to be remembered?
I'd just like the work to be looked after. The Tate has a big room of my work, so a little bit of me stays within history. Also, I have a trust - my studio will become a museum.
What does it feel like to be a subject of study?
I was going to apply to Kent University to do a PhD on myself - I know I'm misunderstood, so it would be good to put it down in writing.
Is there anything you'd like to forget?
Sometimes I'd like to forget who I am.
Is there a plan?
There's always a five-year plan. Even when I thought there was no future, I had one.
So what's your five-year plan now?
I'll be 52 [in five years]. I hope my life will be a lot quieter. What I'd love is someone to look after me. But I don't think that's going to happen.
Are we all doomed?
No, we're not. We have to fight, we have to have faith and we have to look after each other. It's not preaching - it's common sense.
Defining Moments
1963 Born in London
1989 Completes MA at Royal College of Art
1994 Holds her first solo show, "My Major Retrospective", at White Cube gallery
1999 Shortlisted for Turner Prize
2005 Publishes her memoir, Strangeland
2007 Becomes a Royal Academician and represents Britain at the 52nd Venice Biennale
2008 Major retrospective at the Scottish National Gallery of Modern Art
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13 comments
@ Artist.
How does an unmade bed reflect the world we live in in any significant way? In fact.. how does ANY of her work do that? I disagree with you.
It's not her art that is of question, it's her political sentiments and narrowminded opportunism that I find offensive.
Like you I am also an artist and I make work that not everybody likes or gets, if you are an artist then I doubt everyone likes your work. I happen to get something from her raw, confessional work which for me says something about the experiance of living here at this moment in time. I have had some contact with Ms Emin and I can't say I like her as a person but I do repond to her work as do many others.
Very little art is universal in it's appeal and that is fine, it's fine you disagree with me. She's not my favorite by any means Marina Abramovich is, do you like her work? Perhaps our taste just differs?
Emin said that Thatcher should be tried for crimes against humanity. That's not the same as saying she should be tried for war crimes. For all you know, she could be referring to many of the policies put in place during the Thatcher era. As for legal knowledge, I don't think Emin professes to have any special expertise in that area. I think she was making a general statement here.
Emin also states she does not buy into "party politics" but makes a choice based on individual policies/personalities. And so what if it's self-interest? She seems to be saying that it's about personal choice--what suits the individual voter. She's an artist and she has voted the way she has because she believes that the Arts will be better protected by a Tory Government - whether or not that is true, is not for me to say, I'm not here to comment on the veracity of her political predictions - but the point remains that she has laid her cards on the table, claiming that she votes for what's best for her. Why is it so detestful for her to want to protect the industry in which she earns her living? Opportunism is an admirable attribute when someone is able to push themselves to the top of their career after leaving school at 13 and have the life experiences Emin has openly confessed to.
To state that she shouldn't belong to the art world if she cannot take criticism is narrow-minded. She has received undue criticism which has been levied at her on a personal level, largely due to the autobiographical work. I am not about to cite references in this post, but I know of many pieces of journalism which have poked holes in Emin's character rather than undertaken a proper analysis of her artistic output. I agree that she will inhabit a place in history, possibly moreso than many of her contemporaries, as she can be discussed not only in terms of feminism, but also her role in the cultural and artistic revolution of 1990s Britain.
And those of you who suggest she is not intelligent enough to participate in political discussion? What about you lot, sitting behind your computer screens? What earned you the right to have an opinion? You are displaying some very divisive, prejudiced attitudes here and they are not very enlightening.
For the record, I AM an Emin fan, but I wouldn't necessarily have posted on here, but for some of the other comments I read :)
Has she ever thoght of going to art school in a pragmatic country like singapore?
Tracy Emin is not an intelligent woman, she is a brilliant artist but she is not someone who's political views we need to hear about.
Her assertion that the Tory party "know about art" on the back of taking her to lunch is laughable and yet again she embarresses herself but that is part of her charm, she is like the village idiot who can't help but show us when she's shat herself.
Its painfully obvious Tracy, you should stick to what you know - art - not politics.
Does your undying devotion for the Conservative Party have anything to do with Jeremy Hunt raving on about your work. Self-interest perhaps Tracey?
The tory party know about art?
They are the best government we have ever had?
You really are showing you lack of knowledge.
Margaret Thatcher should be tried for war crimes?
You really are showing you lack of legal knowledge.
Like I said, I suggest you stick to the one subject you know something about .....
ps. Are you still avoiding paying tax in your home country?
i know
I love the way Tracy Emin manages to contradict herself
already after the first question. She's blaming Labour for the Recession but failing to see that it's the Conservatives that will be slashing the Arts.
The ridiculous narcissism of this poor, misguided woman is evident throughout this interview. Someone who thinks anyone who goes out to critisize her art must surely have it in for them personally is, in my opinion, not someone who should be in the Arts in the first place, unless they really are the next Leonardo Da Vinci ( and therefore deserve to be 'rebels')- which Tracy clearly isn't.
"I don't need a life model - I am my life model. I've drawn what I know."
I think this sums up all there is to say about this woman. She doesn't know anything beyond herself. As an artist myself, I think that's a tragedy because in Art you, quite the contrary - have to know the outside world too.
"Art is the soul of all countries. If you rip that away, they become nebulous, moronic societies." - I suspect Tracy Emin will be considering emigration again.
There's so much more to criticise, but I'll leave that to the other commenters.