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Bloodshed in South America

Hugh O'Shaughnessy

Published 21 May 2008

Hugh O'Shaughnessy ponders the games being played out on the borders of Venezuela and Colombia and wonders what the outcome might be

It not quite like the Gulf of Tonkin yet. But it certainly looks as if someone is looking for an excuse for bloodshed in Latin America.

In August 1964 Washington started to mobilise its forces against North Vietnam after US reports of a naval attack by the Communist navy on two of its destroyers in those waters. Before long US forces were pouring into Vietnam, just as they would pour into Iraq. The trouble was that the naval attack was acknowledged by the US government in 2005 to have been just as much of a fiction their claims about Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction in 2003. Indeed the US vessels fired first off North Vietnam.

At the weekend US military aircraft based a few miles from the Venezuelan coast on the Dutch island of Curacao – which some readers may remember reading about here a few weeks ago – overflew the Venezuelan island of La Orchila. The US forces say it might have been “a navigational error”.

The US flight comes only a few days after the Venezuelan government reported that Colombian troops had penetrated its territory and had to be directed back to their side of the border.

And the Colombian armed incursion into Venezuela follows the 1 March attack on Ecuadorean territory when several dozen men – possibly in a guerrilla camp - were killed by Colombian forces. President Alvaro Uribe of Colombia is George Bush’s principal ally in Latin America and is one of the principal recipients of US military aid.

Now, far from backing off from their hostile actions against Venezuela, the US and the Colombians are going out of their way to increase the tension – just as Washington did in the Gulf of Tonking and in the days preceding the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

William Brownfield, the US ambassador in the Colombian capital, suggested the other day that if, as the Ecuadoreans have announced, the US have to quit the naval and air base at Manta on the coast of Ecuador when the lease runs out next year, they might find a new home in Colombia. He suggested that somewhere on the Goajira peninsula would suit the Pentagon just dandy. The trouble is that the peninsula has for years been the most sensitive spot of all along Colombia’s frontier with Venezuela.

In February 1992, thirty years after my first visit to Venezuela, I found myself in the baking desert hell of the Goajira watching the strange black-robed indigenous people making what they could of the latest news from Caracas. A young Colonel Hugo Chávez had just failed in his attempt to overthrow the government. Years later the Venezuelans were to freely elect Chávez as their president but the region and the waters round it were, and continue to be, a continuous sources of bickering between Venezuela and Colombia. It remains the perfect spot for a little international mischief making between the two countries.

Unsuprisingly a week ago Chávez warned publicly against the idea of a US base there. "Colombia is launching a threat of war at us,” he announced.

It is clear that as president-elect Fernando Lugo, the latest member of the reform generation coming to the fore in the region, prepares to take over the leadership of Paraguay in August there are worried men in Washington. Many of them inhabit the Pentagon.

In July the US Navy is, as a sign of annoyance, reviving its Fourth Fleet in Latin American waters. And the verbal assault on Chávez continues.

Michael Braun, a senior figure in the US Drug Enforcement Agency, recently told a Colombian newspaper “Venezuela is probably the most important trafficking point in Latin America”. This point sits uneasily with the fact that it is Colombia, the US ally, which is by far the world largest producer of cocaine about which Colombia’s President Alvaro Uribe knows all too much.

President Evo Morales high in the Andes in La Paz wrestles with the prosperous white leaders of the lowlanders in Santa Cruz who want effectively to opt out of Bolivia and take their oil and gas with them. There are all too many people of indigenous blood like Morales in their country, some in Santa Cruz think. Meanwhile, say the whisperers in the Caribbean, Zulia, the oil-rich Venezuela state which has a border with Colombia along the Goajira peninisula, wants to secede as well.

In Ecuador yet other whisperers are at work suggesting that the popular reformist President Correa will also be facing secession similar to the one facing Morales. Like the whites of Santa Cruz in their fight with La Paz, the civic leaders of the port of Guayaquil, land of the world’s most powerful banana barons, have always been unhappy with the power of the indigenous leaders established among the volcanic peaks in Quito. Will this be another chance to blunt the Latin Americans’ drive for change?

Macbeth’s three witches would be quite at home among the troublemakers in today’s South America. They’d certainly get a warm welcome in Colombia.

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16 comments from readers

Carl Jones
21 May 2008 at 11:46

Talk about dancing around the issues. The World of narcotics is run by MI6 and the CIA, on behalf of the Western elite. If there is a war, it will be because the US wants one.

Hugh get as far as mentioning DEF, but can` bring himself to mention the CIA and its South American blood stained rap-sheet.

ldopas
21 May 2008 at 13:57

Haha classic stuff Carl. Even before I came in here I knew some goon would blame us and the US.

After all we're responsible for ALL the bad stuff EVERYWHERE in the world arent we.

My mummy told me its important to take personal responsibility for my actions. Not blame the same people every time.

Countries can stop killing each other anytime soon. Just. Stop. There its that easy.

Im bored of us and the US being blamed for everything. About time someone else stepped up and took responsibility,

nawawimohamad
21 May 2008 at 14:41

The US in trying to be the world policeman is just strangling itself to death. The US is loosing on every front both at home and abroad. The US must wake up now and realise that it not a superpower anymore. It is nearing its expiring date! The US especially under Bush is everything gone wrong.

antileft
21 May 2008 at 14:44

Haha yeah nice one carl- god what a paranoid nutcase you are "THEYRE OUT TO GET ME! THEY KEEP LEAVING NUMBERS AROUND FOR ME TO FIND!!!"

Hugh, as always, biased nonsense that simply backs your side. When are you going to learn that communism doesnt work? In the time of the USSR at least it could have brought some russian aid, but now- there are no benefits to it whatsoever. So, why do you write every article like a propaganda piece for the hard left? It's pathetic, hugh. And it's a waste of time. Youre not convincing anyone except idiots like Cybertiger here who are too dumb to have an opinion anyway.

It's pathetic, by the way, how you try to cover up your lack of knowledge by "filling up space" with gibberish about vietnam. Completely unrelated. You just wanted to insult america ("the other side"), didnt you? Pathetic, hugh. Maybe youre trying to imply that somehow the venezuelans would fight for their cause like the vietnamese did?! Haha yeah sure, hugh, sure. Im sure theyll stop drinking long enough to show the colombian army who's boss! Hahaha yeah thatll be the day!!! Just like vietnam eh? Good old now-capitalist Vietnam.

antileft
21 May 2008 at 14:45

"The US is loosing on every front both at home and abroad."

You think theyre losing in colombia? Hmm someone doesnt know much about the situation...

rob_brez
21 May 2008 at 15:50

Both of you guys, Idopas and Antileft are woefully underinformed on this subject. Disgracefully. At best, you could opine on a piece like this, at worst just shut the hell up defending America if thats the only think left for you. Antileft, you silly silly little boy/man, please do a little reading and thinking before posting like this. Even you should see how backward a persopn like Idopas is in his logic, you appear to have areason for yours, and thats fine, but dont state it as fact when other better informed folk know better my foolish little try-hard?

The CIA are the one running things down there, same like the Opium in Afghanistan, Burma and previously China/Tibet? Thats not a conspiracy, it was the British first, back in the day, and someone before them, and on and on all the way bacl. Governments fund their secretive off the books projects with drug funds. I can state that as the truth because of extensive research on the subject. If you would kindly do the same please!!!!

Some simple questions I bet neither of you ignoramouses can answer, as to do so would be an oxy-moron like defunction of your own argument. But here goes anyway-

Think about it, why does Colombia need to be such a big ally??? Why do the drugs continue to flow despite apparent efforts to stop it? Why is there several documented reports in the last year alone of CIA planes coming down chock full of cocaine? Why is it that once they killed Pablo Escobar []who,although ruthlessly evil, i admit, did much for his community and little for his enemies or the established power]] then they drastically cut back on their mission there? Why is it that they US kidnapped Chavez in '04 and held him on a remote island until 1million people marched on the palace demanding his return? Why are the US stepping up their presence there at a time when the military is very stretched? Why did Chavez have a copy of the constitution printed for every single citizen of Venezuela? Why do only the rich dislike him and the poor love him? Why does he have basic constitutional rights printed on basic food stuffs everywhere such as rice and cereal???? If these countries are going to get nothing out of 'communism' as you call what is modern day democratic socialism are you then so worried about it?? If its such a wrong path and silly mistake, why not let them take it themselves to the possibility of their own ruination??

Haha!!!

Heres just a little bit more truth, and refute me if you will, but if the US was confortable in its skin as it were, there would be no need to bother the elected governments of South America. It is the very fragility of the US, your country, at this time that leads it to ever more desperate measures to strike at its phantom enemies, deflecting from the problems that are much clioser to home.

i.e. poverty, your health system, your amazing number of prisoners and terrible gun crime, your flawed electoral system based on lobbys and bribery, your housing market, your basically tragic economy, your debt and the fact that China has nearly as much US currency as the US itself does...........aw the list goes on and is boring and obvious for anyone who is not a complete zealot of the right.........

I hope this makes you think for even a moment about some of your unbased and biased assertions.

Thanks for (most probably not) listening .....

p.s. In case you were wondering im from Ireland, and the EU sucks just like the Rep v Dem bull over there does. but at least my eyes and my heart are open and I am free from senseless hatred.

antileft
21 May 2008 at 16:23

"Both of you guys, Idopas and Antileft are woefully underinformed on this subject."

Must have been all that time I spend working in the country then. Where did you get all your wonderful information from?

Now, let me answer your dumb questions.

Think about it, why does Colombia need to be such a big ally???

What a dumb question. For aid, trade, weapons, diplomatic support, and the same reasons why everyone else needs to be friends with the only super power. Honestly, what a stupid question.

Why do the drugs continue to flow despite apparent efforts to stop it?

Because theyre incredible lucrative and people will always find a way to fill a market.

Why is there several documented reports in the last year alone of CIA planes coming down chock full of cocaine?

Because youre reading reports from the New Statesman. If you have that from a serious, non-biased source then Id love to see it!

"Why is it that once they killed Pablo Escobar []who,although ruthlessly evil, i admit, did much for his community and little for his enemies or the established power]] then they drastically cut back on their mission there?"

Because pablo escabar made medellin into a giant cocaine factory, which he used to finance his social programs. Duh. What a dumb question. I suppose you would have just ignored him, would you?

Why is it that they US kidnapped Chavez in '04 and held him on a remote island until 1million people marched on the palace demanding his return?

The CIA... Do you think the CIA would have kidnapped chavez and allowed him to live?! The same CIA which apparently rules the world?! You idiot. You think theyre that incompetant, and that interested in venezuelan public opinion?! Hell, if they were, there wouldnt be a problem! It wasnt "the CIA"- it was other groups helped quietly under the table by the CIA. Besides, what on earth makes you think I agree with the CIA?! Quit assuming that there are only two sides and you have to be on one or the other!

Why are the US stepping up their presence there at a time when the military is very stretched?

Because theyre worried about the advance of communism and the threat to US business from that. Dumb question.

Why did Chavez have a copy of the constitution printed for every single citizen of Venezuela?

Erm perhaps because he wanted them to read it and vote for it?? What kind of a dumb question is that?!

Why do only the rich dislike him and the poor love him?

The poor often like him because he hands out money to them and makes big antiamerican speeches. The rich dont hate him at all- theyre getting richer off him. Its the middle class that hates him. Do some research. You can start here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6186990.stm

This is typical of the hard left- the influencial get rich because of the corruption while the poor have to live on handouts- which can never last because eventually the country stops producing things, as is the case in venezuela, where you cant often buy basic ingredients even though oil is selling at over 120 dollars a barrel.

Why does he have basic constitutional rights printed on basic food stuffs everywhere such as rice and cereal????

Because even food packaging is now pro-government propaganda. You think thats a good thing? Not too bright are ya?

If these countries are going to get nothing out of 'communism' as you call what is modern day democratic socialism are you then so worried about it??

Because itll eventually make everyone poorer. Which is exactly what happened in all the other communist countries. And it is communism- call it by its name, even if the name is embarrassing.

If its such a wrong path and silly mistake, why not let them take it themselves to the possibility of their own ruination??

They are being allowed to. Unfortunately, the longer this silly little experiment continues, the poorer they will get. It's a shame that armchair lefties from the west like yourself seem to think that an experiment like this is all well and good "as a learning experience". I think the russians, the chinese, the eastern europeans, and all the rest might, with hindsight, disagree. Those that survived the purges, that is.

IrritatedofTonbridge
21 May 2008 at 17:22

Both of you guys, Idopas and Antileft are the same person.

Carl Jones
21 May 2008 at 23:55

IrritatedofTonbridge, I often reach the same conclusion. Do they work for the STATE?lol

It is amazing how historical fact is easilly ignored. Congressinal hearings have proved the CIA are in involved in narcotics. Its also amazing how desperate the NWO is, perpetuating these stupid lies.

antileft
22 May 2008 at 05:34

No, we re not the same person. Why would anyone bother?

Honestly carl, I do hope youre enjoying your fantasy. You still havent explained why "they" (who are apparently desperate for some unspecified reason) keep leaving numbers around for you to find. You say theyre "numbers freaks"... But what is that exactly?! Seems a bit nutty, doesnt it carl? By the way, have you ever counted the letters in barack hussein obama? Yes carl, its almost 666. Can it be a coincidence? Is it terrifying for you, carl? I bet youre really scared by that coincidence.

Carl Jones
22 May 2008 at 09:12

antileft....you really are scraping the barrel.LOL I`d never of thought about counting Obama`s letters....but its interesting that YOU did.LOL

Here`s one for you. On the day that Blair announced his date of departure from No10, there were 6 days, 6 weeks and he left in the 6 month of June....of course, it was all just by chance.LOL

Take a look at google maps and checkout the roof of MI6 in London.....looks like an Owl.....just another Masonic symbol.

Symbolism and ritual are cornerstones of the NWO. I didn`t make this construct, I just observe it.

As a fellow from the rightwing, maybe YOU can explain why the US elite meet up at Bohemien Grove and worship an owl and then burn it evey year? I think Blair poped in one year.

The Western elite are satanists and I realise its hard for ordinary people to recognise and understand what is going on. But if you look hard enough, its all around us. I suppose the latest example of this "EVIL", is the decision to deny a childs right to have a farther and so the destruction of the "family" ploughs on. The family is only thing left, to protect us from utter corporate surfdom....if they could get away with it, they`d ban people from having chidren.LOL

antileft
22 May 2008 at 09:27

LOL indeed carl!

"On the day that Blair announced his date of departure from No10, there were 6 days, 6 weeks and he left in the 6 month of June....of course, it was all just by chance.LOL"

LOL yes LOL LOL LOL. You said exactly the same thing last time. But here's the thing: why would any top-secret, huge, global organisation made up of thousands of highly intelligent people, which wants to remain top secret, leave silly little clues around for you to find? Why on earth would they leave hints around like that?! Doesnt that strike you as being a bit idiotic, carl? Like the murderer in american movies that moronically leaves wriddles written on the walls which conveniently tell the detectives who he is? Not usually the kind of mistake made by real life large and powerful organisations.

Tell me why theyd do that carl. What possible reason could they have for being that incompetant and obvious?? And "theyre numbers freaks" isnt a good answer carl- unless you explain exactly what a "numbers freak" is, and why these people happen to be so obsessed by numbers?

Also while youre at it carl, please tell me what you think of my silly little numbers observation. Surely, its just as unlikely to be a coincidence as blairs leaving date, isnt it? Whats the difference?

Oh and Im curious to know too- why dont russia and america just have a nuclear war to kill everyone? Itd be very easy, wouldnt it? Russia wouldnt even need to be in on it. It only takes bush to nuke moscow and thats the end of most of the world, isnt it?

IrritatedofTonbridge
22 May 2008 at 09:48

Why would anyone bother? Because they're bitter, desocialised and living on their own? I don't know Idopas/Antileft. I'm not troubled by your inner sadness. As for Carl, if the NWO is leaving little 666 symbols around the place it is only because they - like you - have bought into a very old mistranslation. Now I wonder what sort of improbable and far fetched theory you can manufacture about that. Perhaps it's because 2012 turned 360 degrees looks like a swastika?

antileft
22 May 2008 at 09:52

Ill let you off that one, IrritatedofTonbridge- I think that we re both far more interested in hearing more from crazy-carl here that we are in debating a part of the world that you couldnt point to on a map.

Carl, one more question- do you ever go to a psychiatrist?

IrritatedofTonbridge
22 May 2008 at 11:46

What South America, where I spent a number of months? Cry yourself to sleep at night, do you?

antileft
22 May 2008 at 14:10

Right. So you spent "a number of months" (Id bet one) and yet you dont have ONE SINGLE OPINION to share with us about the article? Read back over your posts, idiot- you havent mentioned the article or the subject once. Maybe you should have done something other than machu pichu, you damn tourist.

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