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The beginning of the end game

Peter Hardstaff

Published 13 December 2007

Peter Hardstaff on how things are getting intense over in Bali at the climate conference

You might not have guessed from the picture that has been selected to appear at the top of this blog page, but I’m actually a serious and intense sort of person. Which is starting to come in handy because things are getting increasingly serious and intense.

Now I have no doubt that for many outside observers a lot of this stuff will appear dreadfully dull. Let’s face it, governments have come all this way to hold talks about having further talks. We all want outcomes and we want them now.

The media will be desperately trying to find a clear cut win/lose story at the end but in all probability there wont be one – unless the whole thing collapses (very bad news) or governments create a framework here in Bali that essentially ‘locks-in’ an ambitious and equitable agreement in a couple of years time (good result).

However, in all likelihood, we’ll get some sort of score-draw with some positives and negatives, or perhaps a no-score-draw, where no agreement is reached but everyone is still rhetorically committed to the process. This latter scenario could be pretty desperate given the urgent need to get some agreed and binding action out of rich countries so that the next phase of the Kyoto Protocol can continue smoothly after 2012.

So, the word in the corridors on what is going on is as follows …

Everyone is rhetorically committed to doing a deal but major differences remain.

Some larger developing countries are prepared to talk about what kind of contribution they can make in reducing emissions but in return they want meaningful talks on transferring technology from rich countries to poor countries (opposed by the US, EU and others).

The US is playing a blocking game here and is trying to create its own process outside the UN for talks on voluntary action with what it calls ‘the big emitters’.

Australia isn’t sure what it wants because the new administration hasn’t had time to communicate to its negotiators what the new strategy is. So Australian officials are in what they call a ‘holding pattern’, which seems to translate into being either silent or moderately obstructive.

The Saudis are still trying to insert language in the text that opens the door for ‘compensation’ for lost oil revenue (they just won’t let it go).

The EU is playing a relatively more progressive role here (emphasis on the word ‘relatively’) and is pushing for specific language on targets (opposed by the US, Japan, Canada and Russia) but my fear is that the EU will get outplayed by the US in the final hours of the talks (seen it happen before).

The small island states are still demanding, cajoling and pleading for more radical and urgent action but it’s falling largely on deaf ears.

Word is that Number 10 is worried about how the outcome (i.e. just an agreement on a future agenda for talks) will play with the UK media and public given high expectations of some action. I think the main action we need to see from Number 10 is scrapping plans for airport expansion, coal fired power stations, nuclear plants and ever more roads.

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11 comments from readers

aelemay
13 December 2007 at 16:28

Today, the Holy See waded into this discussion:

Pope Benedict XVI has launched a surprise attack on climate change prophets of doom, warning them that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology.

The leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics suggested that fears over man-made emissions melting the ice caps and causing a wave of unprecedented disasters were nothing more than scare-mongering.

He is right!

Now, it seems to me that the very best outcome we can expect is to see the whole Bali Conference implode noisily and have Japan, Italy and Spain rescind their memberships and save the 33 billion dollar fines which the UN has levied on them.

After all, there is no actual warming in the last ten years, man is not resposible for earlier warming, and anyone who thinks man can control the climate is as daft as one who would stop the rotation of the earth.

Cybertiger
13 December 2007 at 16:48

"The leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics ... "

I just wish our beloved Pope would use a pink encyclical ribbon to tie on his condom - very, very tight.

Adam
13 December 2007 at 17:04

Hi Pete. You suggest the US might outmanoeuvre the EU ... do you think that the US plan for voluntary talks with big emitters - outside a core international process - could be the main outcome of the talks? Yikes! Hope not...Adam

Kimondo
14 December 2007 at 12:23

Given the amount of public pressure to do something about climate change - the governments really seem to be failing. They seem quite happy to badger us to change lightbulbs and insulate our homes - but when it comes to getting big business to do something about climate change they're pathetic! . Where is the leadership?

I am Zardoz
14 December 2007 at 12:28

How depressing that politicians still, even now, after years of knowing what has to be done, can't pull their collective fingers out and get something done! IN the years to come, people will look back at this kind of shameful shambles and shake their heads in disbelief...

Kirsten
14 December 2007 at 13:29

Hey Pete, good work, although the football team needs you back now (far more important!).

On aelemay’s comments, I don’t see what the Pope has to do with this and see even less how what the Pope says (as opposed to the vast majority of scientists around the world) can be used as justification for his ‘we didn’t do nuff’ink to the planet mate’ syndrome. The next thing we’ll be hearing is that the world is actually flat and those pesky circumnavigators just got it plain wrong! It’s all very well having an opinion but surely some scientific (as opposed to Theocratic) education wouldn’t go amiss before making such an outdated opinion public?

The crux of the matter is that we’ve got to wake up and shift public opinion in order for these pesky politicians to do anything useful (business and votes being the 2 things they seem to care about the most). It doesn’t seem possible that they will do anything off their own back so people need to apply reasonable pressure.

Come on, what’s the very worst thing that could happen if we do actually do what is necessary to reduce emissions and global warming but find out after all nothing could be changed? Answer: a cleaner more equitable planet, an understanding of what is sustainable in terms of consumption and a re-assessment of our priorities relating to use of oil (if we keep wasting it in early 20th century combustion engines then where are our drugs, plastics, households goods and so on going to come from?). Oh My, I nearly forgot the big ones: LESS WAR, less poverty, less reliance on countries of dubious human rights and so on… Not a bad legacy eh?

So we’ve got a lot to lose then? Not.

Somersetlevels
14 December 2007 at 15:14

The UK's ability to influence these negotiations would be a damn sight stronger if they actually practised what they preached on calls to cut emissions.

Hilary Benn basically lies by claiming UK emissions have been cut by 7% since Labour came to power. He might fool the public and Today presenters (as this morning), but sure as night follows day (or heating follows CO2 emissions) other countries' negotiators know damn well emissions have actually RISEN by about 7% once our share of avition and shipping is included. Funny that Messrs. Benn and Brown never mention that, but they'd have a great deal more credibility and weight in these talks if they did, and came up with proposals to deal with the problem.

aelemay
14 December 2007 at 23:12

And now, sweet, reasonable, socialist Europe is going to raise the mandatory percentage from 5 percent to 25 per cent, or higher? Really, have they no brains, no conscience about making life much harder and more expensive for their citizens?

The UN can extract permit money and fines from all the signatories, just like a tax, without as much as a fare-thee-well from the voters in the signatory countries in Europe. And, most have seen CO2 emissions climb almost uncontrollably.

Now, wicked, nasty, arrogant, stupid, and disgustingly repulsive America has reduced its CO2 emissions with its voluntary technology-driven programs. But, now Europeans threaten to boycott the American’s proposed conference if America does not agree to do things the way Europeans do. So, let’s get this right, those whose programs have failed want those whose programs have succeeded to adopt the failed programs and discard those which have succeeded. Did I get this right?

Now, why should America let the UN dictate the financial and economic levers of the American economy with caps and trade, or with carbon taxes? Didn’t America break away from England because of something they called “no taxation without representation?” And, when it comes to the UN, the US is persona non grata, and the General Assembly is dominated by countries who dislike America.

And, bye-the-bye, what does everyone think of the open letter to his Excellency, Ban Ki-Moon by 100 top climate scientists, many members, or former members, of the IPCC that CO2 reductions will do nothing to control climate?

Letter to Ban Ki-Moon

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=164002

tonyrobin
17 December 2007 at 12:37

I dont know what all the fuss is about. A report out last week from the Rt Hon J Hutton, said that by the year 2020, there will be 7000 wind turbines in operation, which will supply all of the UK homes with electricity. Assuming there are 24 000 000 homes in the UK, using on average 6300 kwh a year, this a total consumption of 151 000 000 Mwh a year. I believe the output of a wind turbine today is approx 1200Mwh. So, 7000 times 1200 equals 8 400 000 Mwh. This is far short of 151 000 000. If my maths are correct then 151 000 000 divided by 1200 equals 125 000 wind turbines. Please do correct me if I am wrong somewhere, But???

Pat T
28 January 2008 at 22:33

The Vatican is probably a good authority on this - after all, it was the Church that gave us "original sin" and papal indulgences - - - exhaling-is-pollution and carbon credits seem to be, respectively, in the same veins.

Pat T
19 February 2008 at 17:50

In the years to come, we'll see that the global warming alarmists have done the cause of environmentalism far more harm than good.

What we'll have is a "boy who cried wolf" phenomenon - a few more years of cooling and everyone's going to jump off the global warming bandwagon and from that point on, for a generation, it's going to be difficult to convince anyone to take seriously any alleged environmental crisis, imagined or real.

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Peter Hardstaff is the World Development Movement's head of policy. Prior to joining WDM in April 2002, Peter spent three years leading research and advocacy work on international trade policy issues at the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds.

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