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Chris Hedges

Published 04 June 2007

Religion, claims Christopher Hitchens, is bigoted, irrational and evil. But his moral certitude makes him no better than the fundamentalists he opposes.

God Is Not Great: The Case Against Religion

Christopher Hitchens Atlantic Books, 230pp, £17.99

ISBN 1843545861

Christopher Hitchens, in his book God is Not Great, has conflated religion with tribalism. He lists his four "irreducible objections to religious faith". Faith, he writes, "wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos". It "manages to combine the maximum of servility with the maximum of solipsism". It is the "result and cause of dangerous sexual repression" and it is grounded on "wish-thinking". The book goes on to elaborate with some tedium these points with chapters such as "Religion Kills" or "Is Religion Child Abuse?"

Hitchens sees only one form of religion, the chauvinistic, bigoted and intolerant brand that was embodied in the idiotic pronouncements of evangelist figures such as the late Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson. He assures us that religion "spoke its last intelligible or noble or inspiring words a long time ago". "It may speak about the bliss of the next world," he writes, "but it wants power in this one." Religion is a product of "the bawling and fearful infancy of our species", and all attempts, he assures us, "to reconcile faith with science and reason are consigned to failure and ridicule".

It is easy, increasingly popular, and apparently profitable, to attack this childish brand of religious belief. This book refuses to deal with the nuances of religious thought. It ignores the great moral and ethical struggle by theologians and religious leaders such as Paul Tillich or Karl Barth to root religion in contemporary society. It never confronts the anguish faced by those who recognise the impulses we carry within us for evil as well as good. Hitchens, unequipped to deal with other expressions of religious belief, tries vainly to argue against their authenticity. He writes of Dr Martin Luther King that "in no real as opposed to nominal sense, then, was he a Christian". He disparages the faith of Abraham Lincoln and assures us that Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the Lutheran pastor put to death by the Nazis for resistance, was the product of a religious belief that had "mutated into an admir able but nebulous humanism".

This is a cheap way to avoid the harder task of exploring the varieties of religious experience, of examining the motivations and beliefs of those who strive to live what even Hitchens would have to concede is the moral life. Hitchens is so determined to demonise religion that he would have us believe that self-professed religious leaders such as King or Bonhoeffer were not really religious. The sophistry of this attempt mirrors the sophistry of those he does attack, those who misuse the Bible to persecute homosexuals, Muslims, women, artists, intellectuals and those they brand with the curse "secular humanist".

The problem is not religion but religious orthodoxy and the form it takes in human institutions. Throughout history, most moral thinkers - from Socrates to Christ to Francis of Assisi - eschewed the written word. Once moral teachings are written down they become, in the wrong hands, codified and used to enforce conformity, subservience and repression. Writing, as George Steiner has recognised, freezes speech. The moment the writers of the gospels recorded Jesus's teachings, they began to kill their message. There is no room for prophets within religious institutions - indeed within any human institution. Tribal societies persecute prophets; open societies tolerate them at their fringes. Today, our prophets are usually found not within the church but among artists, poets and writers who follow, as Socrates or Jesus did, their inner authority, an authentic religious impulse.

Those who transform faith into a creed transplant religion into a profane rather than a sacred context. Like all idol-worshippers, they seek to give the world a unity and coherence it does not possess. And with this false coherence imposed, faith withers. There are many theologians, including Reinhold Niebuhr, who themselves brand as false and dangerous the version of religion that Hitchens attacks as idolatry. Hitchens is right in going after this form of belief. He is wrong in assuming that it stands for religious thought.

Hitchens, in common with a group of anti- religious writers including Sam Harris, author of Letter to a Christian Nation, confuses the irrational with the non-rational. There is a reality that is not a product of rational deduction and not accounted for by strict rational discourse. Science and reason can do much to explain sex and sexual urges, for instance, but they are helpless, as Freud knew, before the mysterious force of love. The spiritual dimension to human existence is, likewise, non-rational rather than irrational.

Religious faith has no quarrel with science. It seeks a spiritual truth, not a scientific or historical fact. It allows us to cope with ambiguity and uncertainty, with the ultimate mystery of human existence in this morally neutral universe.

The danger, which Hitchens fails to see, is not Islam or Christianity or any other religion. It is the human heart - the capacity we all have for evil. All human institutions with a lust for power give to their utopian visions divine sanction, whether this comes through the worship of God, destiny, historical inevitability, the master race, a worker's paradise, liberté-fraternité- égalité, or the second coming of Jesus Christ. Religion is often a convenient vehicle for this blood lust. Religious institutions often sanctify genocide, but this says more about us, about the nature of human institutions and the darkest human yearnings, than it does about religion.

This is the greatest failing of Hitchens's book. He, like Harris, externalises evil. And when such writers externalise evil, all tools, including violence and torture, become legitimate in order to eradicate an evil outside of them. This world-view - one also adopted by the Christian right - is dangerous. It fails to acknowledge the impulses within us, both dark and seductive, that permit us to carry out evil, often in the name of good.

This externalisation of evil is what allows Hitchens to continue as an ardent supporter of the occupation of Iraq. He, of course, deludes himself into believing that it is reason that requires us to waterboard Muslim detainees in the physical and moral black holes that we have set up to make them disappear. It is reason that gives us the moral right to wage a war that under international law is illegal, indeed a "crime of aggression".

His assault on what he defines as the irrational force of religion permits Hitchens to sanction the abuse and subjugation of others. This is done in the name of his particular version of goodness, which he calls, repeatedly, "reason". But this, too, is a false god: more particularly, the god of death. For once you wage unprovoked wars and embrace torture, for whatever reason, you unleash sadists and killers. You become no better than those you oppose. And as an apologist for the war in Iraq, Hitchens not only has the blood of American and British soldiers on his hands, but the blood of a few hundred thousand Iraqis, too. He is no better than the apologists for radical Islam he so ardently seeks to discredit. His moral certitude is no different and the consequences are as dangerous.

Hitchens's arguments are the mirror image of those used by the fundamentalists he despises. He embraces a self-serving and simplistic view of the world. This allows him to create the illusion of a dualistic world of us and them, of reason versus irrationality. And once this vision has been adopted, as the events of the past six years prove, it is possible to view military intervention, occupation and even torture - anything that will subdue the "irrational" or "dangerous" - as necessary. "Necessity," William Pitt wrote, "is the plea for every infringement of human freedom." This is done in the name of his substitute for God, "reason" - which looks, like all personal idols, an awful lot like Christopher Hitchens.

Chris Hedges's "American Fascists: the Christian Right and the War on America" is published by Jonathan Cape

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36 comments from readers

Kripamoya
31 May 2007 at 09:50

Chris Hedges has rightly, and with commendable passion, highlighted the straw-man arguments in this latest anti-God book. To attempt to establish a premise by creating a straw man then energetically knocking him down is the tactic of a bluffer. In calling Hitchens bluff, Chris Hedges has proved a worthy adversary.

Hitchens is hard on the heels of the commercially successful Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins, and by choosing a facetious anti-Islamic title like 'God is not Great' is probably hoping to set the cash registers ringing as loudly as the voices from the pulpits.

I didn't agree with Chris Hedges' analysis of precisely why the most noble and inspiring religions can descend into tribalism. Hindu tradition, for instance, has had both a written and an oral tradition, with a wide range of results from each over the centuries. Spiritual teachings - regardless of whether they are spoken or written - can be misused if the conditions are insufficient to support proper understanding and virtuous conduct.

In the words of one contemporary Hindu scholar: "Religion without philosophy can become sentimentalism or fanaticism, yet philosophy without religion can become dry mental speculation."

Congratulations to Chris Hedges for writing an excellent and thoughtful review. May there be many more, like him, who simply won't put up with the fanaticism of the new anti-God religion.

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Janet Burden
31 May 2007 at 09:56

I agree wholeheartedly with Chris Hedges' thoughtful critique of the unfortunate popular trend to dismiss all religion in the name of reason.

Where I really wanted to stand up and shake his hand, however, was on his identification of the biggest failing in Hitchens' book, namely, the externalisation of evil as something 'out there'.

One of the most important things that a responsible religious framework provides is the regular opportunity to reflect on our personal capacity

for committing evil or for condoning it through willful ignorance or inaction.

To offer but one example: how long have we known about the genocide in Darfur? And yet, four years on, the killing continues. It is easy to condemn the perpetrators, but are we bystanders therefore

innocent?

It has been said that thoughtful religion 'comforts the disturbed and disturbs the comfortable.' As Hedges reminds us, playing to people's existing prejudices does neither.

Click here to read Rabbi Janet Burden's Faith Column

Jeremy Rosen
31 May 2007 at 10:13

Chris Hedges and Christopher Hitchens remind me of two old bulls past their prime desperately throwing everything into a final battle for supremacy. The fact is both sides are wrong. Hitchens sets up a straw man version of religion to knock down, misrepresenting a great deal of what spirituality is. Hedges for his part whitewashes the awful record of organized religion in suppressing individual freedom of thought, imposing the most improbable of dogmas and putting power and authority over honesty and sensitivity. The fact is that the ills of humanity are the result of humanity’s own misuse of virtually everything it gets its hands on, religion, politics, even football. Call it original sin or just an evolutionary mutation the amazing thing is that we ever get anything right!

Click here to read Rabbi Jeremy Rosen's Faith Column

Sally Brooks
31 May 2007 at 12:00

It's naïve to suggest that we know enough of the universe to do away with faith. The mysteries of life are a central part of living and believing in something that perhaps has no clear explanation does not make it any less real. This is not, as Hitchens suggests, about wish-thinking. This is about how we feel about ourselves and others, how we make sense of things and most importantly this is about love. And I think this is where Hedges misses the point really. He talks about the struggle to root religion in contemporary society. What he hasn’t acknowledged is that it is in the minutiae of everyday life that religion is rooted. People all over the world go about their business, without drama or declaration. Their faith is part of them and informs how they live. They are rooted in contemporary society more than any theory will ever be. Hedges believes that our prophets are found today in the arts. I disagree. Some of the most profound prophets I have met are in suburban kitchens cooking for their families and doing right by their friends and communities. The ripple effect from one good deed or loving gesture can go way beyond a simple moment in time. This may not be high level theology, but it is the reality of how people live their faith. Whether or not it makes sense to Hitchens, it is part of the very fabric of society.

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SAS
31 May 2007 at 13:25

What a marvellous article !

Tony Lobl
31 May 2007 at 14:35

I have been grateful to be a participant at conferences where scientists have voiced far less strident appraisals of the relationship between religion and science than a view which bluntly dismisses religion outright. One physicist I heard suggested that science is good at analyzing, defining and describing those things which are measurable in the universe but that religion is needed to explore and portray the immeasurable – qualities such as joy, love, patience, etc. – which Chris Hedges touches on. The physicist I saw concluded that the danger to the planet is not religion or science but a one-view-must-fit-all fundamentalism in either discipline.

Fundamentalism tempts all of us who have any kind of strongly held conviction. There has to be a truth – something either is true or it isn’t – and, to me, the problem comes if we find a lens on to truth and mistake the lens for the truth. If my lens (i.e. a particular religious denomination or a scientific worldview) is truth and you have another lens, then clearly you don’t have truth. However, if my lens is a means for looking at truth and you are looking at it through another lens we might be looking at the same truth, but seeing it differently, or seeing different parts of a far more stupendous whole.

As a devoted spiritual seeker who would state without apology that I have experienced the spiritual presence of an infinite love that I would call God – and have experienced moral and physical regeneration through it – I can still identify with much of the debunking of religion presented by Christopher Hitchens. As a member of a church which I have felt benefited and supported by – and which, at its best, looks outward with healing love to a world in need – I can still identify with the challenge laid down to institutionalism by Chris Hedges. I appreciate at least some of the truth they have each seen through their lens and shared honestly from their standpoint. But if we end up worshipping the lens – whether that lens be religion or reason – aren’t we making idols of the tools that got us a glimpse of what is true in the first place?

Wouldn’t it be far better to enlarge our lens and look beyond our own comfort zones, humbly admit that each individual can barely scratch the surface of an infinite truth, and keep looking and finding out more to share with each other constructively rather than destructively?

It is not wrong to highlight that which is wrong in religious practice. Jesus’ own words and actions courageously and powerfully challenged the materialistic elements in the religious worship of his day. But he also transcended the science of his day and of today, if the reports of his healing work are accurate. The ideas in Mary Baker Eddy’s “Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures” – which throws a light on how Jesus healed – is helping many do the same, to some degree, in contemporary experiences of healing.

That should be food for thought – and an impulse to inquiry – for any open-minded seeker of truth, whichever lens they are looking through!

Click here to read Tony Lobl's Faith Column

oola1
31 May 2007 at 19:38

Oh, please. I'm continually amazed at how many people are taking this book seriously. Of course his argument is flawed, he's just trying to escape his recent past and doing a ham-fisted job of it. He Spend the last five years supporting a war the religion right in the US were in complete agreement with, even though that war became totally unsupportable by anyone other than an apparatchik of the neo-cons four years ago. Now he's the last rat off the sinking ship by writing a book broadly attacking religious fundamentalism. He doest protest way too much.

Zanzebar
31 May 2007 at 21:34

Totally agree with Jeremy Rosen. Yes Rabbi, and we all know what happens to bulls (young and old) day-in-day-out!

One can only praise the British rebellious Left for tackling serious cosmic issues. Here, in Zimbabwe our political Left has been reduced to prostituting itself to deciphering Mugabe's increasingly intrusive and paranoid ideas. Some might wonder how much of the left is left (our Zimbabwian left obviously).

By way of illustration, Mugabe is vigorously seeking to introduce new sweeping powers for (His) law enforcement; to kidnap, torture and imprison anyone the establishment considers a danger. I am sure in your country people would pour out into streets in their millions- but for us it is almost a daily routine. Vladimir Lenin is reported to have said: a slave gains half his freedom once he realises that he IS a slave.

Pray for the people of Zimbabwe.

LabourHumanist
01 June 2007 at 10:57

Is this what counts as interactive debate on NS - trash an atheist polemic and then get a bunch of in-house pro-faith "bloggers" to chime in with how much they agree with that trashing? I think you protest too much!

G. Tingey
01 June 2007 at 12:25

Mr Hadges only too obviously cannot think straight.

He says: "Religious faith has no quarrel with science. It seeks a spiritual truth, not a scientific or historical fact."

Ok, then, what is this "spiritual truth", then?

And how can one determine that it is true, or false?

Millions believe that, by way of example, that Mahmud had a spiritual truth when he composed the Koran.

But that sayas that women are inferior to men, and subjext to their orders.

And the christian bible isn't much better (epistles to Timothy).

Are these spritual truths, then?

No.

Which brings me back to the question - how are we to know?

Certainly not by listening to Chris Hedges' irrational vapourings.

Admin
01 June 2007 at 13:05

Labour Humanist I think it is YOU who protests too much. Why don't you address your own complaint and give us your point of view on religion. Who knows, it might make the debate even more interesting!

Ben Davies

editor, newstatesman.com

ptgkrempg
01 June 2007 at 13:40

When are these science-fundamentalist nutcases like Dawkins and Hitchens going to progress from adolescence and face the reality that the world is more complicated than the one described by empiricism. Are these people seriously suggesting that we must choose between crazed and unrepresentative religious fundamentalists and a straightforward empiricism? What about the many critiques of empiricism made by secularist philosophers? If empiricism is ultimately flawed, which it is, then science cannot provide absolute truth and yet our perception of the world must be based on some notion of its reality, so we find opurselves engaged in a social battle to choose which version of reality dominates.

If the scientific method is taken to its logical conclusion it disproves itself; for, surely the biological imperative to be the fittest and survive, if it is fundamental to life, must be applied to scientits themselves who are making the observation. Therefore, the observation of the Darwinian process must itself be a part of the struggle to succeed. How, then can we accept the objectivity of the observation?

lazarou
01 June 2007 at 14:02

Why do you insist on calling the religious beliefs of the overwhelming majority of the world's faithful "childish"? There may well be people in academia discussing the colour of God's shirt and whether he lives on a cloud or is all around us but the plain fact it that these views do not represent the majority. The simplistic majority view is what Hitchens, Dawkins, et al are attacking and rightly so.

In any case the theology which you seem to regard as so much more advanced is utterly inconsequential without first proving the existence of one or more gods to which the theology can apply. Till then it is just so much hand-waving and pontification.

Ken
01 June 2007 at 14:30

The part of the argument that basically says that Hitchens political views are repugnant therefore anything he says about anything else must be false doesn't really work. I am no Hitchens fan, but if he says 2 + 2 = 4 I don't think his views on the Iraq render that statement false. For anyone who has actually read the book who finds the review a little odd try searching for other articles by Chris Hedges. You will find his remarks about Sam Harris's book strangely familiar.

Douglas Chalmers
01 June 2007 at 15:22

No, there is a workable philosophy in "the golden rule" of do to others as you would wish to be done to yourself. That is another way of describing the concept of karma or how you are affected by the results of your own actions. In other words, action and reaction are opposite and equal.

Since the development of the recent concept of the "big bang" by astro-physicists though, science and religion both actually believe in a creator or an "original cause". Let's just call it "the Force", ha ha, as it is the original creative force and vivifies all of us and the rest of the universe.

Ironically, though, atheism now affects both the science evolutionists as well as the religious creationists as both of those arguments are now redundant and regardless of the energy their adherents put into their one-eyed beliefs. That is, both evolution and creation are now a fact. That should upset quite a few people.

One can no longer excuse one's behaviour by merely assuming that we all just crawled out of some biological soup. Neither can individual arogance be excused by assuming that one's own religious flock were specially created by a bearded old man up in a cloud but not the rest of humanity.

The reality of being part of an original creation is known to those who have a working intuition and inspirational faculty. Their consciences are very active and they are very observant of how things work out and their part in it. Thus, they are always mindful of avoiding wrong thought and action (they're not our politicians!). That is where one finds "proof" but in the most subtle of ways.

The Barefoot Bum
01 June 2007 at 15:54

Yes, Hedges, we get it: Otherwise sensible people can wrap God in so much bullshit that it becomes impossible to recognize as the parasitism and propaganda from whence it came. But this sort of mystical mumbo-jumbo is no more "adult" than the religion of Falwell and Robertson. In some ways it's more childish, reminiscent of children's "just so stories" and naive rationalizations. At least Falwell and Robertson have some respect for the notion of truth; they're at least definite and specific enough to be wrong.

Hedges, on the other hand, sucks all the juice out of truth with some sort of vague epistemic subjectivism: It is true because you believe it, the elevation of the "inner authority".

Making stuff up and calling it true

jimdenham
01 June 2007 at 16:42

I still haven't made up my mind whether Chris Hedges' apologia for superstition is "irrational" or "non-rational". A wonderful distinction that only a complete nincompoop could come up with. As for "religious faith has no quarrel with science. It wseeks a spiritual truth, not a scientiific or historical fact": what the hell is that about? My guess is that hedges (like most modern apologists for religion) is hinting at the "non-overlapping magesteria" most famously put forward by Stephen Jay Gould. That science deals with the "how" questions while religion deals with the "why's": it's a superficially attractive approach, but ultimatetely nonsense and a cop-out. Why should the great mysteries like love, beauty and the ultimate meaning of life, be the preserve of irrational (sorry, "non-rational") theologians rather than scientists who deal in verifiable facts and testable theories that can be disproved?

I for one have had enough of the pro-religion lobby trying to make out that vogorous, polemical atheists like Dawkins and Hitchens are "fundamentalists", no better than the islamo-fascists or the US fundamentalist right: when atheists start murdering women for being women, or homosexuals for being homosexual, or blaming all the word's ills on Jews,or flying planes or firing missiles into civilian targets with the aim of killing as many people as possible, then I'll concede that relativist apolgists like Hedges have a point. By the way, contrary to what Hedges seems to think, holding strong views against irrational thought and superstition (and rejecting his ultra-reactionary views about the essential "evil" of human nature). does not necessarily entail agreeing with Hitchens about the Iraq war. I don't.

GodonHide
01 June 2007 at 20:47

This writer seems to agree with Hitchens about the evils of organised religion, excepting the odd ad hominem attack, but his defense of what he feels religion aught to be all about seems to be the tired old "science can't explain it so Goddidit".

LabourHumanist
01 June 2007 at 22:23

NSADMIN

No, I'm sticking to what I see as fair comment on the process here. There is free debate and there are put up jobs. There's an attack on an atheist polemical book, then 5 out of the first 6 comments come from your own in house "faith" bloggers more or less agreeing with your in house reviewers attack. That isn't debate, isn't there a phrase called "astroturfing" or something like that?

wardsten
02 June 2007 at 09:26

What a load of bollocks. At least when Hitchins occasionally gets it wrong, he does so eruditely and entertainingly.

taghioff.info
02 June 2007 at 13:06

If we have religion we face he problem of compromising the quest for an open society, where ideas and actions are open to criticism and debate.

If we don't have religion, we face increased depression levels, and lower levels of happiness due to the die-out of public celebrations, and a loss of meaningfulness in people's lives.

We also tend to face decreasing family sizes, which is difficult socially, but good for the environment.

My point is that we are not even close to solving this one, and the polemicists have all got it wrong.

We do not have a single belief system that serves us well for all our collective needs, and we may never find one. Even pluralism does not suit all needs, and even reason is plural.

Abu Nudnik
02 June 2007 at 21:59

This is far too defensive. 1) monotheism first posited the notion of a single force under which all nature could be organized and therefore made science possible. 2) servility and solopsism? Ba-da-boom: dat's a rim shot! 3) sexual sublimation, not supression, is responsible for civilization. 4) The ultimately sublime invention of the imagination is God. If you think that means he isn't real, you don't know poetry or anything above the animal: back of the class. There. I've dismissed Hitchens' purile nonsense in more words than it deserves.

jimdenham
03 June 2007 at 00:05

Abu: you're simply a moron.

jimdenham
03 June 2007 at 00:06

...and that's a paradiddle

Mark Fournier
03 June 2007 at 06:17

Hedges comment that Hitchens externalizes evil may well be on the mark. I suspect that the real target of critics like Hitchens, Harris, and the rest may be dogma and idolatry, not religion per se (deism and certain non-supernaturalistic belief systems seem to escape the net.) But to say that religion, like anything else, can be abused is to admit the main point that these critics make--that religion, like any other human endeavour, is ethically neutral, a tool that can be turned to good or ill, and not a guarantor of ethics.

Furthermore, the type of religion that Hedges admits is subject to Hitchens criticisms is by far the most prevalent, or at least, the most significant as a social and political force. Hedges own book not only accepts that this is the most prevalent form of Christianity, but may actually overstate the case. Christianity in America, by his own admission, is being overrun by exactly the people that Hitchens criticism are directed at. If Hitchens is throwing out the baby with the bathwater, it may be because he agrees with Hedges that the baby has already drowned in it. Given the sorry state of religion now, is there really anything left worth salvaging?

Mike West
04 June 2007 at 10:09

I find that I agree with much of what Christopher Hitchens says about religious faith today and realize that I have a great deal in common with many of his ideas.

I would feel mildly distressed with his underlying assumption that, as a Christian, I am a less well evolved specimen of the human race, holding on to a set of unreasonable and destructive beliefs and practices that bind me irrevocably to a man made God.

However, as a clergyman in the Church of England I am not always accredited with having that much sense of vocation and purpose so perhaps I should be grateful.

Much of religious practice is, and always has been, outrageously foolish, and it is not difficult to score points in this area. These issues are important. The first is the distance that Hitchens and other atheist writers try to establish between religious and non religious belief. He would not thank me for saying this, but I believe that the spring which nurtures his brand of atheism is the same spring that nurtures my Christian faith. He asserts that he has principles rather than a faith but I think that the link between these two are close and the boundaries between them are permeable.

Secondly, although I would applaud his respect for free enquiry, open-mindedness and the pursuit of ideas for their own sake, these are after all important Christian principles, I would put less value on his assumption that human beings are on a journey from the primitive to the sophisticated, from primitive religious belief to principled atheism. For me, that myth was exploded in the last century by two of that period’s greatest atheists, Stalin and Hitler.

Thirdly, Hitchens writes that the person who is certain belongs to the infancy of our species. I agree that fundamentalism is distressing and dangerous. But I wonder, has he ever read Stephen Dawkins?

Atheists would be the first to admit that gods come in many forms and spawn many primitive belief systems. My view is that two of the most dangerous gods of our age are the gods of scientific method and human progress. I may only be a primitive who can’t cope with the realities of life and death, but even I have enough sense not to worship at those particular shrines.

I know human beings pretty well and have been privileged to have been touched by the love of God at a number of key points in my life and therefore haven’t confused the two. I think it’s a pity that Hitchens hasn’t realized that the great spiritual guides in the world’s great religion traditions have touched what it means to be human in ways that defy rather tawdry notions of human progress. It's not religion that poison things, it's people. People poison things, religion confuses things and God gets crucified. That’s the basis of my faith. But then, who listens to clergy anymore?

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julesevans
04 June 2007 at 10:21

Perhaps if we lived, as Hitchens does, in the US, we too would find ourselves fulminating against evangelism or religion in general.

However, here in Britain, where we seem to have become a secular society to a remarkable degree, do we really think our society is the acme of human perfection?

We seemed to have relinquished any idea of moral authority in our society.

Instead, our only authority is the market. We listen to whoever can shout loudest, whoever looks the best or is snapped at the most parties, whoever corporations think can sell the most books.

Our main moral authority, the person who has most influence over how we think about who we are and what we should do, is Rupert Murdoch, a man only interested in trying to guess and cash-in on our most basic and lowest common impulses.

Our societies are sinking into meaninglessness, into epidemics of emotional disorder, soulless office drudgery, weekend shopping and binge-drinking. We have no moral authorities, no one to tell us by what principles we should live our lives in order to be fulfilled. We have only the amnesiac media reflecting back to us our own petulance and superficiality.

I say, bring back the inquisition!

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mitchy
04 June 2007 at 12:50

God is dead, and we're all worm food, so lets just try to be nice to each other before we all cash in our chips, eh?!

Ken
04 June 2007 at 14:14

Chris Hedges rightly lets 'religion' off the hook. He cites the tendency to externalise evil in others, rather than acknowledge curelty in our own heart and yearnings, as the root of human and particularly institutional abusiveness. So far, so good: it is astonishing to hear truths of this magnitude being spoken in a magazine like the New Statesman. But he slips a little and falls prey to a classic blind spot: he ends up doing *exactly* what he himself condemns, by secretly externalising evil himself: Guantanamo, Bush, Blair, these are the evil ones, these are the sources of cruelty. This is the eternal achilles heel of the left: intelligent people such as Mr Hedges seem unable to fully realise their convictions: all they manage is to invert instututional and religious prejudices; coming up with their own set of demons, Blair etc, rather than abandoning the need for demons.

freedemocrat
05 June 2007 at 23:10

I fail to see how Christopher Hitchens making the manifestly evident point that religion is "bigoted, irrational and evil" means that he is "no better than the fundamentalists he opposes". By the same illogic may we take it that Chris Hedges would claim that the numerous journalistic New Statesman attacks on Nazism in the past for much the same shortcomings would warrant those journalists being labelled fundamentalists?

cass
06 June 2007 at 14:20

Belief in a God maybe seen as an unnecessary detour along the journey we take to seek out our own truth or meaning in life .In the same way falling in love is not necessary for procreation. But doesnt the non rationality of such powerful experiences heighten and transcend the human experience? Unfortunately we can't all be poets or musicians who reach the sublime through their art ; everyday people need to transcend their lives through the basic human traits of belief and love.

anti-Ayatollah
07 June 2007 at 03:51

I would agree to the extent that faith in God surpasses our limited human comprehension. Those who are believers will never reveal, let alone share their experience with a non-believer. They truly are God's Chosen servants.

This is so, because God reveals Himself to the chosen believer in ways not intelligible to ordinary mortals. I would certainly agree that perhaps not every human being is rewarded with this experience due (perhaps) to their worldly endeavor to discover God or for some other unknown (unseen) reason. The good news for the atheist non-believer is that they do not see the extent of evil quite in the same way. Show a David Lynch film to a randomly-chosen, reasonably well-educated audience and see the reaction. Then ask a Rabbi, Mullah or a Christian priest their impression of those grotesque satanic (or mystical mumbo-jumbo to be politically correct) rituals and you might not hear an answer because it would be the same as to ask Einstein explain a three year-old toddler the theory of relativity.

You either believe in God or you don't. But unlike G.W.Bush's 'with us or against us' doctrine, there is a sizable, if not an overwhelming majority in the middle

(including some Synagogue, Mosque and Church- goers) who are simply not quite there.

This does not mean they cannot coexist harmoniously. In my personal experience it is usually the non-believer who is at pains to challenge the believer for a debate not the other way around (this excludes Bible-clutching salesmen from MidWest).

"God Talk" seems to be going rather well on New Statesman website...note not London's Central Synagogue or Mosque (speaking of market values and what sells not)...

BillN
10 June 2007 at 13:23

I have been an atheist for 42 years. For the first 11 years of my life I seriously doubted. As a boy I read the bible extensively before eventually concluding God was a myth.

Later in life I studied philosophy at university and was very interested in the question "What is science". My main interests were in social science. But faced with competing paradigms that battled over the right to claim their approach was scientific and the others not, I turned to philosophy for an answer.

The answers I came up with was that science was a messy business, all its theories and findings are provisional, neat prescriptions of scientific method do violence to the history of science and scientific progress is no guarantor of human progress (the latter having no objective measure with progress being in the eye of the beholder).

Nietzsche long ago declared the death of God, but he also pointed out that God had been replaced by Man and his secular idols. I won't say it of Htichens as I have not read his book but many of his type dance on the grave of God without even noticing they have erected new idols to sit in his place. The invasion of Iraq demonstrates how death and destruction can be rained on humanity and justified by the highest secular ideals (not to forget a certain Christian agenda in there too).

For me as an atheist there is no beyond, there is no deity ,so when people above talk of faith it means nothing to me if they are talking of faith in a deity. But we all need faith, faith in others, faith in democracy faith in so many things in a world where absolute certainty is the scarcest resource on earth. But we should always be questioning, always be doubting our faith. We are all living in faith though, faith that your husband is loyal and has never betrayed you, faith that it is worth the struggle to make a better world. I don’t think we could function on any level without it.

You might have guessed that for me the simple division of the world into what belongs to religion and what belongs to science is unacceptable. I can’t accept the reduction to science and be subject to scientism but I don’t want to give up what’s left to religion.

What we do need is to recognise that no belief system, method or philosophy, be it science, existentialism, Christianity, hermeneutics, deconstruction or whatever else, is a guarantee that violence will not be done in its name.

Christianity cannot irrationally deny the work of science and try to fill our children’s heads with dogma (the earth is more than 6000 years old) but science and secular philosophies must also recognise the modes in which religious beliefs and modes of thinking live on in their own thinking in unexamined ways. A continued exploration of the Christian inheritance of secular thought, for good and bad, is a task secular thought should not shirk.

In politics and society we need to work for a pluralist vision, William Connolly is a more articulate advocate of this than I, that builds a society in which secular and religious beliefs can co-exist and enrich one another and give up the idea that if only we could eradicate one or the other the world would be a better place.

Admin
12 June 2007 at 13:59

From Letters to the Editor...

Chris Hedges does an excellent hatchet job on Christopher Hitchens' unhelpful rant, in an area where helpful rants are still much needed.

However, he does rather muddy the waters by using the word religious to describe the spiritual impulses that produce art and, I would argue, scientific insight. That is, the imagination is spiritual and religion is what happens when the spiritual is hi-jacked by control freaks and the lustful for power. That decent and good people get caught up in something that has been around, providing self-serving false explanations of natural phenomena, for a very long time, is not surprising but the notion that religion, thought-provoking as it has been, is inherently evil, is correct.

Yours sincerely,

Ken Baldry

Linda
13 June 2007 at 18:27

Desparate Chris Hedges couldn't win a debate with Hitchens:

http://richarddawkins.net/article,1235,The-Is-GodGreat-Debat...

and so he keeps on whining.

What is it with people who can read and write yet are so emotionally dysfunctional that they continue to embrace Bronze Age science fiction as if the primitive illiterates that created they tales have anything to offer today? The manuals for social tyranny (bible, torah and koran) are disgraceful, misogynistic and pornographic yet they are constantly held up as models for existence today. When Dawkins, Hitchens and Michael Onfray point out the obvious wickedness of those tomes why do the deluded not quietly check facts and quit reacting with vengeance?

The essential reading list is:

The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins

god is not Great, How Religion Poisons Everything, Christopher Hitchens

The Atheist Manifesto, the Case Against Judaism, Christianity and Islam

infecting children's developing emotions with tales of hellfire and damnation is tantamount to child abuse. Most of our societies have laws against parents having sex with their kids yet still have not recognized the dire consequences that result from filling their heads with lies and untruths. Our morals are not derived from religion and the three books I've suggested illustrate that in easy to understand language. BTW although scientists keep looking for evidence of gods to date none are proven.

No child is born believing in Judaism, Christianity or Islam. Those labels are forced on kids. As we evolve culturally it is critical to marginalize religion leaving it as to consenting adults and keep the kids out of it. Just think about how nice Jerusalem would be without the generational, stupid violence that doesn't stop because one family believes the Tooth Fairy hands out real estate deeds with the quarters.

Most modern people know where babies and gods come from so is it too much to ask that everyone grow up and stop being so darn infantile when it comes to superstition? Oh and it really is ignorant of the extremely deluded to accuse Atheists of not loving or being loved. When you all say that stuff it makes you sound completely brainwashed and without the capacity for abstract thought. Being free of religious superstition means that everyone can live life to the fullest knowing that when death comes that's it.

Do not be afraid little ones.

sbrooks
15 June 2007 at 16:36

Linda, I think you are under a misapprehension if you think every religion preaches hell and damnation and aims to brainwash children. Everyone has a right to their own beliefs - those of all faiths and none. Everyone has the capacity to love, regardless of religious belief. We should, quite rightly, question religious opinions and consider the right paths for ourselves. I have no intention of expresing my faith in a way that 'brain washes' or seeks to impose rules or ideologies on me or others. I think it is too simplistic to blame all of the world's evils on religion. Is hoping for a greater good really so bad?

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