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Iran: the war ahead

John Pilger

Published 16 April 2007

The sailors' ordeal was a diversion from the bigger danger. The US and UK identified their new enemy long ago and are preparing the propaganda for the war ahead.
Plus Rageh Omaar on how the Iran affair has weakened Britain's hand

The Israeli journalist Amira Hass describes the moment her mother, Hannah, was marched from a cattle train to the Nazi concentration camp at Bergen-Belsen. "They were sick and some were dying," she says. "Then my mother saw these German women looking at the prisoners, just looking. This image became very formative in my upbringing, this despicable 'looking from the side'."

It is time we in Britain stopped looking from the side. We are being led towards perhaps the most serious crisis in modern history as the Bush-Cheney-Blair "long war" edges closer to Iran for no reason other than that nation's independence from rapacious America. The safe delivery of the 15 British sailors into the hands of Rupert Murdoch and his rivals (with tales of their "ordeal" almost certainly authored by the Ministry of Defence - until it got the wind up) is both a farce and a distraction. The Bush administration, in secret connivance with Blair, has spent four years preparing for "Operation Iranian Freedom". Forty-five cruise missiles are primed to strike. According to Russia's leading strategic thinker General Leonid Ivashov: "Nuclear facilities will be secondary targets . . . at least 20 such facilities need to be destroyed. Combat nuclear weapons may be used. This will result in the radioactive contamination of all the Iranian territory, and beyond."

And yet there is a surreal silence in Britain, save for the noise of "news" in which our powerful broadcasters gesture cryptically at the obvious but dare not make sense of it, lest the one-way moral screen erected between us and the consequences of an imperial foreign policy collapse and the truth be revealed.

"The days of Britain having to apologise for its colonial history are over," declared Gordon Brown to the Daily Mail. "We should celebrate much of our past rather than apologise for it." In Late Victorian Holocausts, the historian Mike Davis documents that as many as 21 million Indians died unnecessarily in famines criminally imposed by British colonial policies. Moreover, since the formal demise of that glorious imperium, declassified files make it clear that British governments have borne "significant responsibility" for the direct or indirect deaths of between 8.6 million and 13.5 million people throughout the world from military interventions and at the hands of regimes strongly supported by Britain. The historian Mark Curtis calls these victims "unpeople". Rejoice! said Margaret Thatcher. Celebrate! says Brown. Spot the difference.

Brown is no different from Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and the other warmongering Democrats he admires and who support an unprovoked attack on Iran and the subjugation of the Middle East to "our interests" - and Israel's, of course. Nothing has changed since the US and Britain destroyed Iran's democratic government in 1953 and installed Reza Shah Pahlavi, whose regime had "the highest rate of death penalties in the world, no valid system of civilian courts and a history of torture" that was "beyond belief" (Amnesty).

True carnage

Look behind the one-way moral screen and you will dis tinguish the Blairite elite by its loathing of real democracy. They used to be discreet about this, but no more. Two examples spring to mind. In 2004, Blair used the secretive "royal prerogative" to overturn a high court judgment that had restored the very principle of human rights set out in Magna Carta to the people of the Chagos Islands, a British colony in the Indian Ocean. There was no debate. As ruthless as any dictator, Blair dealt his coup de grâce with the lawless expulsion of the islanders from their homeland, now a US military base, from which Bush has bombed Iraq and Afghanistan and will bomb Iran.

In the second example, only the degree of suffering is dif ferent. Last October, the Lancet published research by Johns Hopkins University in the US and al-Mustansiriya University in Baghdad which calculated that 655,000 Iraqis had died as a direct result of the Anglo-American invasion. Downing Street officials derided the study as "flawed". They were lying. In fact, the chief scientific adviser to the Ministry of Defence, Sir Roy Anderson, had backed the survey, describing its methods as "robust" and "close to best practice", and other government officials had secretly approved the "tried and tested way of measuring mortality in conflict zones". The figure for Iraqi deaths is now estimated at close to a million - carnage equivalent to that caused by the Anglo-American economic siege of Iraq in the 1990s, which produced the deaths of half a million infants under the age of five, verified by Unicef. That, too, was dismissed contemptuously by Blair.

"This Labour government, which includes Gordon Brown as much as it does Tony Blair," wrote Richard Horton, editor of the Lancet, "is party to a war crime of monstrous proportions. Yet our political consensus prevents any judicial or civil society response. Britain is paralysed by its own indifference."

Such is the scale of the crime and of our "looking from the side". According to the Observer of 8 April, the voters' "damning verdict" on the Blair regime is expressed by a majority who have "lost faith" in their government. No surprise there. Polls have long shown a widespread revulsion to Blair, demonstrated at the last general election, which produced the second lowest turnout since the franchise. No mention was made of the Observer's own contribution to this national loss of faith. Once celebrated as a bastion of liberalism that stood against Anthony Eden's lawless attack on Egypt in 1956, the new right-wing, lifestyle Observer enthusiastically backed Blair's lawless attack on Iraq, having helped lay the ground with major articles falsely linking Iraq with the 9/11 attacks - claims now regarded even by the Pentagon as fake.

As hysteria is again fabricated, for Iraq, read Iran. According to the former US treasury secretary Paul O'Neill, the Bush cabal decided to attack Iraq on "day one" of Bush's administration, long before 11 September 2001. The main reason was oil. O'Neill was shown a Pentagon document entitled "Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts", which outlined the carve-up of Iraq's oil wealth among the major Anglo-American companies. Under a law written by US and British officials, the Iraqi puppet regime is about to hand over the extraction of the largest concentration of oil on earth to Anglo-American companies.

Nothing like this piracy has happened before in the modern Middle East, where Opec has ensured that oil business is conducted between states. Across the Shatt al-Arab waterway is another prize: Iran's vast oilfields. Just as non existent weapons of mass destruction or facile concerns for democracy had nothing to do with the invasion of Iraq, so non-existent nuclear weapons have nothing to do with the coming American onslaught on Iran. Unlike Israel and the United States, Iran has abided by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, of which it was an original signatory, and has allowed routine inspections under its legal obligations. The International Atomic Energy Agency has never cited Iran for diverting its civilian programme to military use. For the past three years, IAEA inspectors have said they have been allowed to "go anywhere". The recent UN Security Council sanctions against Iran are the result of Washington's bribery.

Until recently, the British were unaware that their government was one of the world's most consistent abusers of human rights and backers of state terrorism. Few Britons knew that the Muslim Brotherhood, the forerunner of al-Qaeda, was sponsored by British intelligence as a means of systematically destroying secular Arab nationalism, or that MI6 recruited young British Muslims in the 1980s as part of a $4bn Anglo-American-backed jihad against the Soviet Union known as "Operation Cyclone". In 2001, few Britons knew that 3,000 innocent Afghan civilians were bombed to death as revenge for the attacks of 11 September. No Afghans brought down the twin towers, only citizens of Saudi Arabia, Britain's biggest arms client, which was not bombed. Thanks to Bush and Blair, awareness in Britain and all over the world has risen as never before. When home-grown terrorists struck London in July 2005, few doubted that the attack on Iraq had provoked the atrocity and that the bombs which killed 52 Londoners were, in effect, Blair's bombs.

In my experience, most people do not indulge the absurdity and cruelty of the "rules" of rampant power. They do not contort their morality and intellect to comply with double standards and the notion of approved evil, of worthy and unworthy victims. They would, if they knew, grieve for all the lives, families, careers, hopes and dreams destroyed by Blair and Bush. The sure evidence is the British public's wholehearted response to the 2004 tsunami, shaming that of the government.

Certainly, they would agree wholeheartedly with Robert H Jackson, chief of counsel for the United States at the Nuremberg trials of Nazi leaders at the end of the Second World War. "Crimes are crimes," he said, "whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct which we would not be willing to have invoked against us."

As with Henry Kissinger and Donald Rumsfeld, who dare not travel to certain countries for fear of being prosecuted as war criminals, Blair as a private citizen may no longer be untouchable. On 20 March, Baltasar Garzón, the tenacious Spanish judge who pursued Augusto Pinochet, called for indictments against those responsible for "one of the most sordid and unjustifiable episodes in recent human history" - Iraq. Five days later, the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, to which Britain is a signatory, said that Blair could one day face war-crimes charges.

These are critical changes in the way the sane world thinks - again, thanks to the Reich of Blair and Bush. However, we live in the most dangerous of times. On 6 April, Blair accused "elements of the Iranian regime" of "backing, financing, arming and supporting terrorism in Iraq". He offered no evidence, and the Ministry of Defence has none. This is the same Goebbels-like refrain with which he and his coterie, Gordon Brown included, brought an epic bloodletting to Iraq. How long will the rest of us continue looking from the side?

John Pilger's new film "The War on Democracy" will be previewed at the National Film Theatre, London SE1, on 11 May. http://www.bfi.org.uk/nft

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37 comments from readers

report this comment Shoestring
12 April 2007

This is a good article on the whole. There's one big error, though. Pilger claims that "only citizens of Saudi Arabia" brought down the twin towers on 9/11. In fact, the evidence for this claim--which is the U.S. government's own conspiracy theory about 9/11--is so weak as to be laughable. The Middle Easterners who supposedly piloted the four aircraft that day had never flown jet planes before in their lives. Hani Hanjour--who supposedly flew Flight 77 into the Pentagon--was well known to be an appalling pilot who had trouble flying a Cessna. Yet these amateur pilots supposedly acquired superhuman flying skills on 9/11, being able to navigate hundreds of miles over the U.S. with no assistance from Air Traffic Control, and then hit their targets with pinpoint accuracy. Come on!

Furthermore, as has been shown by numerous researchers, such as physicist Steven E. Jones, the evidence that the Twin Towers and WTC 7 were brought down deliberately using explosives is pretty much conclusive. Among other things, there was molten metal found in the rubble of the buildings--clear evidence that thermite or thermate had been used; the towers fell in virtually free-fall speed; all the concrete was pulverized to dust; and no steel-framed high-rise has ever collapsed before or since 9/11--even those that have suffered far worse fires than those that occurred in the World Trade Center.

So come on John! If you really want to put a stop to the criminal Bush administration, you need to stop endorsing its conspiracy theory about who carried out the 9/11 attacks.

report this comment StevenL
12 April 2007

'According to Russia's leading strategic thinker General Leonid Ivashov: "Nuclear facilities will be secondary targets . . . at least 20 such facilities need to be destroyed. Combat nuclear weapons may be used. This will result in the radioactive contamination of all the Iranian territory, and beyond."' (John Pilger)

Why are we not to assume you are merely recycling Russian propaganda? It is Russia that started re-arming Iran against the wishes of the USA. Iran is a rogue state, they showed the world that last summer with their support for Hezbollah. While I did not support the Israeli bombing of Beruit, all the good work done by the USA and EU in Lebanon was trashed as a result of Iran's agressive foreign policy. Why should NATO capitulate in the face of Russian and Iranian agression?

Why should we allow Iran to become strong enough to threaten the economic interests of the civilised world? If the Iranians and the Arabs want to carry on living like they do, imprisoning or killing homosexuals, hanging alleged rape victims from cranes for adultery, stoning their women to death to chants of 'God is great' then so be it. The civilised world needs a stable oil supply, if their leaders threaten this then the interests of our civilisation should trump theirs.

report this comment taghioff.info
12 April 2007

Iran had a civilised democratic tradition before we intervened in their politics, and turn to fundamentalism as a reaction to western incursion in their affairs. All the Iranians I have met have been some of the cultured and civilised people, born of an ancient civilisation, and deeply philosophical in temperament. Iranian cinema is some of the best on the planet. These are not an uncivilised people.

Gandhi was once asked of what he thought of western civiisation, and he said it would be a good idea. Just compare Abu Graib and Guantanamo to the treatment of the 15 soldiers. That StevenL tries to justify theft of a another nations resources on the grounds of us being civilised is effective satire, hopefully not unintended.

And who cares about the 9/11 conspiracy theory: The point is the Bush administration wanted an excuse to invade Iraq and take control of its resources, and ran roughshod over international law to do so. The rest is largely irrelevant.

I really hope that John Pilger is wrong, and a war with Iran doesn't emerge.

The big question is, what can anyone do to stop it? Peaceful protest didn't make much difference over Iraq, and rioting is much harder than in the poll tax days, with the raft of public order laws now in place, and it is a long time since Cromwell...

report this comment Simon2502
12 April 2007

"This is a good article on the whole. There's one big error, though. Pilger claims that "only citizens of Saudi Arabia" brought down the twin towers on 9/11. In fact, the evidence for this claim--which is the U.S. government's own conspiracy theory about 9/11--is so weak as to be laughable."

The problem with conspiracies is they are very difficult to prove. When a government or two decide to conspire, then it becomes near impossible.

Jonathan is right to use the agreed evidence at hand to support his statements. Until we can storm the governments involved and apply the detention and torture tactics used we will never know the answer. Even then confessions etc gained in this fashion are not worth anything at all.

How much of the history we know is true????

The fact is freedom is Freedom, we have no right at all to dictate how Iran and islamic states are run. The Shah of Iran was a despot and we put him there, the people removed him. Thats what happens when enough people rise up against tyranny. Blair Brown Bush Cheney beware.

Iran can only hold us hostage over oil if we increase our dependence upon it. We shoud develop oter forms of energy, even forms of energy that the Government cannot control and TAX.

Aquafuel, Nuclear energy, and Orbo. Geo Thermal energy, wind and sea.

We can still run our planes trains and Automobiles.

I will admit the Oil giants will be out of business and the share holders will lose out, but hey what EVER!!!!!!!

report this comment StevenL
12 April 2007

'That StevenL tries to justify theft of a another nations resources on the grounds of us being civilised is effective satire' (http://taghioff.info/dant)

I never mentioned anything to do with theft. Besides, the UK has a safe supply of light crude from the Saudis, we have something they want - defence tech. It's not just the USA and UK that need light crude oil, the whole of both the developing and developed world does, and doesn't want to be in the position of being held to ransom.

My point is, that when it comes to the crunch, our economic and strategic interests are more important to us that the Iranians interests. If they threaten our interests then we should be prepared to defend our interests. I have no problem with buying our oil (like we do) but we should never allow ourselves to be held to ransom over it.

In a few decades time it is likely we will depend on Russia and Iran for our oil supply. They need to know we mean business and won't tolerate them playing silly buggers with our economy. If the country was left to people like John Pilger to run we'd be ruined in a couple of years.

report this comment writeon
12 April 2007

Given the grotesque nature of so much of what passes as political discourse in Britain, and the craven impotency of parliament in the face of Blair's dictatorship, one is tempted to lurch into the realm of satire and black humour when surveying the prospects for an attack on Iran. But, but... the situation is really just too serious to ridicule. The time for laughter and luxury of irony is passing. We are dealing with a desparately serious situation, where we may all have to take stock and consider taking appropriate measures in the event of us launching a war against Iran. To coin a phrase, when/if the attack begins, we should take nothing off the table in our attempt to stop the war.

I suppose I'm advocating non-violent disruption and if necessary non-violent sabotage, democratic insurrection if you will, aimed at a government which no longer has the right to rule or lead. Compared to the fate that awaits Iran and its people any action we take dosn't require much effort or bravery, just civil courage and determination to succeed and cause as much trouble as possible.

When I write "appropriate measures" what do I mean? It sounds ominous and even a little sinister doesn't it? Specifically I leave the interpretation of "appropriate measures" up to each one of you. We all have different talents and we all live and work in different parts of the economy. An advanced, modern economy, is more fragile than many people think. Mass civil-disobediance in the workplace and not just the streets can have a knock-on affect that could quickly bring the entire economy and state apparatus to a standstill.

In my own case, in the event of an unprovoked and illegal attack on Iraq, I will go on strike and occupy my place of work and encourage my fellow workers to do the same. I'd like to see something like a spontaneous General Strike break out, but failing that, an alternative would be a highly disruptive guerilla-strike campaign aimed at the State. From my own vantage point in the system I could probably bring a city to a complete standstill for more than twenty-four hours. I've installed a computer virus which can be activated by only a few keystrokes on my computer. I would encourage all of you to consider other forms of direct action to paralyse different areas of the state apparatus in the event of an attack on Iran. It's not a lot, but the time for demonstrating in the street and signing pertitions is over. It didn't stop an attack on Iraq and it won't stop an attack on Iran. Blair has contempt for the electorate and we should give him some of his own medicine for a change. Instead of passively allowing genocide to be committed in our name and more perversely, in the name of "democracy" "human rights" and even "peace", have these people no shame or honour, that they so blithely prostitute themselves, our language and some of our most deeply held beliefs?

If large scale and peaceful demonstrations take place in our major cities, they must last indefinitely, don't go home, stay put in the streets, and bring London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Glasgow and other towns to a standstill. The prisons are full so there is no where to put you even if you are arrested. An illegal and illegitimate attack on Iran by Bush/Blair automatically removes their right to be treated as the legal and ligitimate representatives of the people. Therefore, men who are already regarded as war-criminals, no longer have any authority. By their actions they have become, very literally, outlaws. No one; police, army, civil servant, public sector worker, student, professionals, workers in factories, no one should feel obliged to obey any intructions or orders coming from Tony Blair or his henchmen.

The important point is that insurection against a government or state embarking on a policy of war-crimes, mass-murder and destruction in Iran, has forfeited its right to rule lawfully and ask for our support. Of course the action I'm advocating is not without cost, however the consequences of a massive attack on Iran are worse for all of us in the long run. We occupy the moral highground and natural justice is on our side, regardless of the rules, laws and conventions of the day. Stopping, by any means necessary, the start of World War Three - a probable nuclear attack which could lead to the deaths of millions, requires - no, demands, resolute and determined counter-measures, if we are to stop our slide into war, barbarism and finally dictatorship. Pull the plug wherever you are, stop the war, defend democracy!

report this comment Brown-good-news
12 April 2007

"How long will the rest of us continue looking from the side? "

As long as we have two lonely islands- (however densely populated) in a sea of Suns and Mails. Surely it is time for intoduce a quota with regards to national media. The situation in modern western media is reminicent of 1920's. As The Economist reports on a "benign growth" it is simultaneosly echoed by Spiegel's "A christian church becomes a mosque in Britain" followed an editorial on "sewer rats"...meanwhile The Economist hit back with a masterpiece titled "the history of mammles"...

The problem is that selling news is regarded as a Tesco affair -that is to say selling cheap socks with no responsibility attached (would The Sun shine if it wan't for the pair of..). So long as this remains the case will the average joe look the other way and so too will millions of children be murdered methodically, and systematically just like that pretty documentory on Auschwitz.

report this comment Brown-good-news
12 April 2007

Excuse my English there, I seem to have switched to French...burdens of electoral nosia. I'll shut up before i start writing in Hungarian...

report this comment mallee
13 April 2007

Dear Mr. Pilger,

There was a time when I took no notice of you. Now at over 60 years of age and an education from non controlled mass media sources, I think you are usually correct.

Unfortunately , I wonder about your "leftishness", I hope it is not of straw.

You can convince me and your supporters by doing what I have done over the last 2-3 years. Research 9/11 and realise that it was not carried out as claimed by the US administration.

Please take the hint from a few comments above, look into it. You might wish to start with the site; weknow9/11.com.

If you do not,l I humbnly foresee that you will be considered just as one of the pawns of the controlled mass media.

Best of luck.

Mallee. (BA LL.B syd)

report this comment Why am I here
13 April 2007

Dear writeon,

The trouble is that whatever we write can be monitored and traced back to us. I am a techie too but as a hacker can you tell us how we can stop being monitored in cyberspace, maybe you have found a way how.

Cheers dude

report this comment GideonPolya
13 April 2007

Excellent article by John Pilger – a truly great Australian. Yet at home Downunder a Muslim clergyman has been sacked after being horrendously vilified by the Murdoch Press, the Mainstream media and Mainstream politicians - both the Bush-ites of the Coalition Government and by Religious Right Rudd (R3) of the Labor Opposition (yet hopefully Australia’s next PM) – for protesting the horrendous threat to remote, populous and peaceful Iran from ultra-violent US-Israeli State Terrorism (USIST).

John Pilger is correct in his estimate that post-invasion excess deaths in Iraq now total about 1 million. The US Johns Hopkins data he refers to published in The Lancet in October 2006 (indicating 13.3 deaths annually per 1,000 people and an Iraqi pre-invasion death rate of 5.5 deaths annually per 1,000 after 12 years of crippling Sanctions ) yields an “annual excess death rate” of 7.8 per 1,000 (i.e. 7,800 per million) and a population of 27 million yields excess deaths = 7,800 x 27 x 4 = 842,000 as of March 2007.

However using a Jordan/Syria baseline for comparison of 4 deaths annually per 1,000 yields an “annual excess death rate” of 9.3 per 1,000 (i.e. 9,300 per million) and post-invasion excess deaths totalling 9,300 x 27 x 4 = 1,004,400 i.e. 1.0 million as of March 2007.

Consonant with post-invasion excess deaths in the Occupied Iraqi and Afghan Territories totalling 1.0 million and 2.4 million, respectively, the post-invasion under-5 year old infant deaths total 0.5 million and 1.9 million, respectively; the number of refugees total 4 million and 3.8 million, respectively.

Violence aside, a major reason for this carnage is the war criminal non-provision by the Occupiers of the life-sustaining requisites unequivocally demanded of Occupiers by the Geneva Convention - according to WHO, the annual per capita medical expenditures permitted by the Occupiers in Iraq and Afghanistan are $64 and $23, respectively, as compared to $2,874 (Australia), $2,389 (UK) and $5,711 (US). For detailed documentation and analysis of the Bush-Blair War on Terror – in actuality an horrendous War on Asian, Arab and Muslim Women and Children - see MWC News: http://mwcnews.net/content/view/13099/254/ ).

One sincerely hopes that John Pilger is NOT correct about an impending US (UK? Israeli?) attack on peaceful remote Iran. Given the horrendous carnage in Occupied Iraq (population 27 million) and Occupied Afghanistan (population 26 million) the consequences of an attack on Iran (population 70 million) would be horrendous and commensurate with the consequences of the Nazi attack on Eastern Europe in World War 2. While such an attack will be “justified” by Racist Bush-ites (RBs) and Racist Zionists (RZs) in terms of "terrorism" (as has been the virulent bi-partisan attack on the Australian clergyman) the reality is that about 7,000 Westerners have died from Muslim-origin non-state terrorism in the last 40 years (including Israelis and making the increasingly IMPLAUSIBLE assumption of no active or passive US involvement in the 9/11 atrocity). In contrast, the post-invasion deaths variously due to US, UK and Israeli State Terrorism in the Occupied Palestinian, Iraqi and Afghan Territories now total 0.3, 1.0 and 2.4 million, respectively.

Decent folk must resolutely protest against the widely adumbrated attack on Iran (a Google Search for the evil and obscene phrase "attack Iran" yields 842,000 URLs).

report this comment taghioff.info
13 April 2007

StephenL reaches new satirical heights:

"In a few decades time it is likely we will depend on Russia and Iran for our oil supply. They need to know we mean business and won't tolerate them playing silly buggers with our economy. If the country was left to people like John Pilger to run we'd be ruined in a couple of years."

1) Pilger does not claim to be an economist.

2) There are, in the longer run, althernatives to oil. There is a small debate going on about climate change at the moment, that you might want to take a look at...

3) Iraq is not such a great case study for the cost-effectiveness and business sense for war. I think Bush is doign a better job of ruining your economy than the Iranians ever will.

Has it not occurred to you. StephenL, that the entire doctrine of free trade that has characterised the last 50 years of history was based on the notion that trade and co-operation, rather than war, was the best way to get rich?

Yes we face resource shortages, no, war and military force is not the smartest way to deal with this.

report this comment jfraser
13 April 2007

An article about the coming war with Iran that fails to mention the U.S. Government's stated intentions on the matter and makes no mention of Iran's publically stated goals in the region. Baffling.

The World Trade Center towers were brought down by explosives "is pretty much conclusive." Concluded by whom exactly?

Iran does not have a

"democratic tradition;" not before, not during, not after western interference in their affairs has democracy, either losely or rigidly defined, existed there. Iranian politics is hardly of an ancient tradition. The Iranian nation-state, like nearly all others on this globe, is wholly modern in its origins and influences, and therefore as susceptible to mindlessness and fundamentalism as western modern nation-states are.

report this comment fabsadami
14 April 2007

SteveL:

Please stop masquerading as a racist. You state "the civilised world needs oil" that comment AUTOMATICALLY makes the insinuation that "they" are not civilised. Moreover, you're masquerading as a colonialist, and could effectively just ask "why did God bury OUR oil under their sand?" This is market economics at its purest...we have demand, they have supply. Why should WE fix the price of THEIR commodity? Please explain! What gives us the "right" to THEIR natural resources??

Moreover, steve, you need to read the NPT. We, here in the UK are violating it. So are the Israelis, the Russians, the Yanks..everybody.

Finally...please address this issue: if the US arms the Israelis...why shouldn't someone else arm the Palestinians. Are you Niall Ferguson in disguise?

report this comment Telegraphed
14 April 2007

"For what it is worth, I argued in the Los Angeles Times in 2005 that the United States should divide Iraq, like Gaul, into three parts, and then leave. (For fans of the Rome miniseries, Julius Caesar began his Commentary on the Gallic Wars with "Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres"). We are spending blood and treasure to preserve a country that does not make sense as a state and to keep together people who do not wish to live together. Keeping Iraq together runs counter to modern history's wave of decentralization. Today there are 193 nations; at the end of World War II there were 74. All of this is made possible thanks to American guarantees of international peace and free trade, which reduce the need for large, multi-ethnic nations."

The American Enterprise Institute

report this comment algaselex
16 April 2007

The most frightening aspect of this article is that there has been no debate whatsoever in the US about the upcoming attack on Iran. At least before the Iraq war disaster, there was a concerted propaganda attempt by the Bush/Cheney administration to drum up popular and Congressional support for the invasion. This time, it will apparently come out of the blue, probably just before the 2008 election, with the Democrats being smeared once again as weak and unpatriotic, if not actually traitors. Therefore, while in Orwellian fashion, the administration will claim to be bringing democracy to Iran, it will use the Iran war as a pretext for putting the final nails in the coffin of democracy here at home.

report this comment NatO
16 April 2007

I believe John Edwards has said voting for the war was a mistake.

report this comment Chomsky
16 April 2007

Having survived 'filter-gate', the "conservative" Baztab (with its inetrnational HQ near Langley) is presenting Naom Chomsky's doctrine of 'Case For War: how to scare politicians into submission'. A good read. It would've worked during the 80's (last century) but now it looks like a grandma taking a driving lesson in the wrong direction of M25.

report this comment Lopakhin
16 April 2007

By the way - Shoestring: 'Furthermore, as has been shown by numerous researchers, such as physicist Steven E. Jones, the evidence that the Twin Towers and WTC 7 were brought down deliberately using explosives is pretty much conclusive'

Would that be the same Steven E. Jones who wrote this http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/jones/rel491/handstext+and+figures.htm">scholarly essay claiming to prove that Jesus Christ once visited Central America?:

I take it you believe that too?

report this comment Lopakhin
16 April 2007

I see my question was answered earlier in the thread. Must make a point of reading those things in future.

report this comment sonicdeathmonkey
16 April 2007

There is no evidence of Iranian state complicity in arming and training insurgents in Iraq. There is no evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons program. There is huge amounts of evidence that letting the US try to "install democracy" is morally and economically counterproductive. There is enormous evidence that the humanitarian cost of such action far outweighs the brutality of the incumbent regime. There is also this little thing called the Fourth Geneva Convention which outlaws somethign called collective punishment. Do we really want to unleash "shock and awe" on another nation? The UK is hated enough at the moment and the moral high ground we used to hold in international affairs is long since trampled under the shoes of Blair and his filthy band of genocidaires. I will not stand by and let the mistakes of Iraq be repeated. I will certainly not let my country become further involved with the morally bankrupt Bush administration.

If I am mistaken, someone please enlighten me! I wish I were.

PS: You 11th September conspiracy theorists are similarly counterproductive to the pursuit of human values, please get stuffed.

report this comment Lopakhin
17 April 2007

Sonic death monkey: 'There is no evidence of Iranian state complicity in arming and training insurgents in Iraq.'

That may or may not be the case, but it seems that Iraqis do believe that Iran is doing that. See this recent opinion poll carried out for the BBC

'Most people think Syria, Iran and Saudi Arabia are actively engaged in encouraging sectarian violence.'

Not that that means we should attack Iran, or anything.

report this comment Shoestring
17 April 2007

** Would that be the same Steven E. Jones who wrote this scholarly essay claiming to prove that Jesus Christ once visited Central America?:

I take it you believe that too? **

I haven't read this, so I cannot say. But I have read his, "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Completely Collapse?" It is online here:

paper

It is what I'd expect from a well-respected 20-year physics professor like Jones. You might disagree, but I find the evidence he presents for the controlled demolition of the three WTC towers conclusive.

report this comment JL
17 April 2007

This is an incredibly one-sided article. Yes Britain has committed terrible atrocities throughout the world, recently and in the past, but are other regimes really that much better eg. Russia, China, Iran, Burma, North Korea. I think that you will find that their citizens are considerably worse off. Ultimately, Britain and America must be viewed as Imperialists but I would still much rather be living in our land of bigots than in a place as backward as fascist China or Russia. At least in the UK you can still choose to leave if you want and is the author seriously advocating Iranian or Russian hegemony as an alternative to the current imperfect US-dominated system.

report this comment TheTrueDeeBee
17 April 2007

SonicDeathMonkey, Mallee, Lopakhin, etc.

You people talk about conclusive evidence regarding the atrocity of the 9/11 attacks and in the same post berate people for not properly researching their subject matter?!!?

It makes me absolutely despair for the fate of humanity when people exercise 'doublethink' in such a blatant manner. But when I think on, can I really blame them?

Mass media has been under the control of high level political players since before the time of Nazi Germany, most of you so-called intellectuals must know that. Propaganda and counter propaganda are part of everyday existence and the reason why most citizens of 'the west' are largely apathetic to their news...it cannot be believed, is largely to blame for an unreasonable culture of fear....'go on, give us a look at pg3 again, I'm getting depressed'.

What I am trying to say is that it’s easy for humans to take the path of least resistance, believe the official line and hell, what’s the point of making a fuss? you can't change anything.....or can you? The internet brings us a lot of dross but it also connects us to people who we may never have had the chance to meet and talk to say, 15 years ago?

Back to 9/11 because, unlike some, I feel it is massively relevant to the shape of Neo-Con foreign policy in this, the fledgling years of a new millennium.

Evidence, both video and structural, exists which proves beyond any doubt that shaped charges and Thermite/ate were used on several floors of the WTC buildings that day. Without going into the science, it's not hard to prove that these shaped charges and Thermite were used on the steel 'core' girders of the WTC and any demolition professional will tell you the same. Just take a look at any of the major news channels’ footage of the recovery operation at ‘Ground Zero’ … the core girders can be clearly seen at the site but ‘chopped’ off at a 45° angle with remnants of steel ‘slag’ solidified below these cuts. It is this which is the irrefutable and hard evidence which you all seek, it is the PNAC report ‘Rebuilding America’s Defenses’ which houses all the tacit threats and suggestions to incoming administrations of the White House. The evidence is hidden in clear view for all of those prepared to ‘see’ it.

All survivors of the WTC attacks - that's the survivors, people who WERE THERE - recall multiple explosions, several coming from the basement of both towers....seconds before the planes hit the towers. I have personally spoken with Willy Rodriguez, the last man to be pulled from under the wreckage of a fire truck at ground zero..... a man hailed by all of America as a hero, one of only 5 people who had a master key for the service stairwells in both buildings that day. Willy was a cleaner and had worked at the WTC for over 10years and had been given a Master key after an accident befell him on an unoccupied floor several years ago. This man repeatedly returned to the WTC buildings to pull people from burning wreckage from the basement explosions before taking his key and aiding the fire crews in rescuing others from floors 1-30. This man is a national celebrity in America and almost fell foul of political manipulation by Bush himself as he was offered funding to run for congress, just as he started to fight for the rights of the families of the 9/11 victims. This man was on basement lvl3 of the WTC buildings on 9/11 when the first explosion went off beneath his feet, seconds later the first plane hit.

Over the last 40 years the large structure demolition industry has turned a necessity into an artform and anyone who has ever witnessed a building being demolished with explosives will surely agree. If you show any of the available BBC (they said they lost it in a building move and now it has miraculously resurfaced on the internet), CNN footage to a demolition professional; of the WTC7 building falling at 5pm on 9/11 they would tell you it was 'pulled' - a technical term within the industry. Coincidentally? Mayor Rudolf Gulianni used the very same language (of the demolition industry) on the day and in the following weeks, when talking on the subject of the WTC7. One other very important piece of coincidence – as William Burroughs turns in his grave – is the fact that WTC7 housed large operations spaces rented by the CIA, FBI, NSA among others; in itself not all that suspicious except for when one learns that the Mayors’ Emergency Control Centre was housed there, an office suite unused except for when serious disaster befalls New York…. Reason to ‘pull’?

Are any of you asking any questions yet? … I don’t care if you ask them of me, I’ve been looking at this subject matter for over 5 years…I’ve got answers for all your questions….all of them except ‘Why are Bush and Blair still in government?’

report this comment Lopakhin
17 April 2007

Thetruedeebee: 'CNN footage to a demolition professional; of the WTC7 building falling at 5pm on 9/11 they would tell you it was 'pulled' - a technical term within the industry.'

You know, I've heard that quite a lot. But it's usually from people who aren't in the civil engineering or demolition industries. Are you, out of interest? It's just that here:

http://www.wtc7.net/pullit.html

and here:

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc7_pulled.html

are a couple of articles from people who've asked people in those industries whether they do use the word 'pull' in that way, and it turns out that they don't. Maybe you know better though?

report this comment Sam Thornton
17 April 2007

I'm particularly impressed by the scholarly erudition and irresistible logic evident in the comments, here, particularly those arguing Martian or similar responsibility for 9/11.

Back on the point, however, we've found here in the US that if we keep peppering the President with clever questions about the various scandals surrounding his administration, and waive bright shiny objects in the background, he often loses his place and forgets to threaten Iran with the forces of Hell. You might try the same with your Mr. Blair.

report this comment NS Admin
19 April 2007

From Letters to the Editor...

Dear Editor,

The image of 'looking from the side' with which John Pilger began his article on threats to Iran was spot on. I was alerted last summer to the fact that Iran's Supreme Leader, the Ayatollah Khamenei, was in effect an honorary member of CND. He has consistently denounced nuclear weapons as un-Islamic and unaffordable. His views are readily accessible on the internet thanks to Juan Cole's website 'Informed Comment'. On 5th June last year Cole reprinted a speech of Khamenei's delivered the previous day. There the rejection of nuclear weapons is unambiguous and emphatic. And 'un-Islamic' is a strong adjective coming from an Ayatollah. It makes any shift away from that conviction virtually impossible.

Of course, a successor to Khamenei might decide that nukes were not so un-Islamic after all, which is why supporters of the Non-Proliferation Treaty need to get their act together while Khamenei is still around. So far they are not doing so.

Here in Scotland Cardinal Keith O'Brien and the current Moderator of the Church of Scotland's General Assembly, Alan McDonald, have spoken out vigorously against nuclear weapons and the plan to replace Trident. I wanted them to encourage Khamenei by sending him a message of solidarity, but the Moderator was not'minded' to do so, and the Cardinal's adviser in these matters, Father Chris Boles, treated the idea as a joke. I think I understand the reluctance. When St Andrews University conferred an honorary degree on the Ayatollah Khatami, formerly President of Iran, the Scottish MEP Struan Stevenson said that this was 'a slur on Scotland' of which the University should be ashamed. The Sunday Times highlighted the 'fury as St Andrews honours Hezbollah backer'.

This anxiety about media misrepresentation has enabled the UK Government to pursue the Bush-Cheney-Blair campaign against Iraan's 'nuclear programme' unhindered. The Foreign Office minister Kim Howells has been writing letters to inquirers alleging that the Government is 'not aware' of when and where Khamenei denounced nuclear weapons. This is a manifest falsehood (well, perhaps Howells himself didn't know until I told him), and it shows the lengths to which the Government will go to soften us up for an attack on Iran.

I hope that Pilger's article will srve as a wake-up call.

Geoffrey Carnall

report this comment sonicdeathmonkey
19 April 2007

I hate to throw one conspiracy theory after another but I'm always amazed at how discussion threads with concise and damning criticism of US foreign policy often becomes crowded with conspiracy nuts trying to drag the conversation down to the level of "George Bush is an alien and he ate my dog". I cannot help but wonder if there is an office somewhere in the US full of NSA or CIA staff posting this rubbish just to tar the rest of the discussion with the 'cuckoo brush'.

report this comment Douglas Chalmers
20 April 2007

"John Pilger," wrote Harold Pinter, "unearths, with steely attention facts, the filthy truth....."

Oh, really? That's surely not why my earlier comparison of standing by as though in some helpless dream as far as Iran is concerned was deleted by the editor simply because I compared such an act with uncaringly witnessing a rape about to be perpetrated. Does no-one mind if annother Iraq happens or if a nuclear attack worse than Hiroshima or Nagasaki happens as long as it is "over there"?

report this comment Douglas Chalmers
20 April 2007

"...No Afghans brought down the twin towers, only citizens of Saudi Arabia, Britain's biggest arms client, which was not bombed..."

I think we all saw the WTC planes but what I dispute is whether anyone could ever have hijacked them in the first place unless they were properly trained passenger jet pilots (military or civilian) with a working knowledge of the interior layout of 747's.

If anyone has seen inside a cockpit, they will know what I mean. There are literally dozens of dials and levers and even flying a light aircraft is nothing at all like driving a car. What is more, how could an inexperienced person even find New York from the air never mind identify the right building to hit. Also, the two planes each successfully managed to hit a separate tower of the WTC!!!

Its not easy to get into the cockpit, either. Unless you've been there, you couldn't even find it on a 747 and there is more than one door to go through - and you have to get past the navigator and other crew in that area as well. The hijackers would have to have had some equipment to use to break through those doors - or a key or pass code!!!

There's no way a couple of ordinary guys could have done any of that with mere "box-cutters". They would have to have been armed and it would have to have been a military-style operation. And, since when could anyone have ever found "box-cutters" in such a crash site and attributed them to the hijackers? Even the crash of the third airliner would have strewn wreckage over a couple of kilometres.

No, 9/11 surely was planned and executed far better than we have been told by the authorities. John Pilger has commented rater weakly in that respect. As "Shoestring" commented (12 April), "... come on John! If you really want to put a stop to the criminal Bush administration, you need to stop endorsing its conspiracy theory about who carried out the 9/11 attacks...".

report this comment stan35
21 April 2007

I applaud all of you for your different views as it is great to see people thinking.

Sadly though, if the USA attacks Iran then the whole global dynamic will change. Global oil prices will skyrocket, effectively crashing the economies of all countries that rely on oil or its byproducts for the day to day function of industry and commerce in all forms. This combined with climate change, which is now obvious in many parts of the world, will lead to the collapse of the food supply chain. Sadly mankind is past his greatest hour, if their ever was one, and if the dominos fall as I believe, then by 2012-2015 at the present rate of global instability and collapse, the lights will literally go out.

report this comment batesharold@hotmail.com
21 April 2007

This is an interesting article and I don't oppose Pilger's opposition to the idiotc Bush/Blair adventurism however I wish John Pilger would not keep repeating the same idiotic remarks about Iranian history and I certainly wish he checked his facts first. It was Mohammad Reza Shah who went back to Iran after the unconstitutional act (as admitted by Mossadeq's own minister) by Mossadeq was put down.

In addition I wish he would stop repeating the old Western propaganda about how harsh the Shah's regime were. The Mollahs have outdone the Shah and his father but wholescale extermination of all opposition using fascistic methods. Please stop repeating the previous propaganda in support of the present nightmare.

report this comment StevenL
21 April 2007

'Please stop masquerading as a racist. You state "the civilised world needs oil" that comment AUTOMATICALLY makes the insinuation that "they" are not civilised' (fabsadami)

Middle-Eastern regimes are not civilised by our standards. Most of them run hidious, tyrannical, barbaric regimes, the Saudi's included. Thie difference is some of them are on our side and some are not.

'Why should WE fix the price of THEIR commodity? Please explain! What gives us the "right" to THEIR natural resources??' (fabsadami)

OPEC do more to fix the price of oil than any other entity around. Rising oil prices can cause inflation in our economies, and damage the interests of our civilisation. Our petro-currency is very suseptable to oil price shocks. Therefore the oil producing nations need to be kept in check.

We are not stealing their natural resources, we are merely ensuring that they remain in friendly hands. This benefits the whole world, which needs fuel oil and gasoline to keep moving.

The Arabs and Persians should never be allowed to stop the progress of the civilised world.

'if the US arms the Israelis...why shouldn't someone else arm the Palestinians.' (fabsadami)

In case you hadn't noticed, the Palestinians have elected a terror group as their government, a group that refuse to recognise Israels right to exist and advocates the destruction of an entire sovereign state. Any country that arms such an organisation is behaving in a highly irresponsible fashion.

report this comment TheTrueDeeBee
23 April 2007

Israeli's were imposed on the Palestinians in the first place, were they not? I seem to remember the US having a hand in that too. Why not elect a terror group as your representatives? the other 'civilised' debate never got them anywhere. In fact, you've got to fight terror with terror if you really want to get anywhere in Dick Cheney's world.

Sonicdeathmonkey, you really are a Monkey. Hey, are you one of those ppl working with the 'Intelligence Community'? (itself an oxymoron). Douglas Chalmers adds further good points concerning the piloting skills of the supposed 9/11 hijackers. Points which are not revelations but well known Aerospace Engineering facts about the capabilities of passenger liners of that size and type, the supposed training and competence of Hani Hanjour and his assistant 'hijackers'.

Anyway, I am seriously in danger of hijacking this thread ... again.

report this comment NS Admin
26 April 2007

From letters to the editor...

Dear Sir,

So, have I got this right, Jon Mclellan (Iran responses, NS 23 5 07)?

On the one hand, we have the Israelis. They are heavily armed with nuclear weapons, (though they persistently lie about it). Last year they attacked another country (Lebanon). Hundreds died. They have the nautomatic, and apparently unqualified, support of the greatest military power the world has ever seen,-the United States.

On the other hand, there are the Iranians. They are lead, it is true, by a loudmouthed bigot. But they have no nuclear weapons. They have never to my knowledge attacked another country. And they have only very limited international support..

Despite all this, Iran is a threat to Israel!

Such a theory would be laughable were it not so dangerous.

Yours sincerely

D. A. Rainbird

report this comment NS Admin
26 April 2007

From Letters to the Editor...

I was perplexed by Mr Pilger's views on inaction in his recent bombast on the prospect of a war with Iran, Whilst he likens the British Inaction over "Operation Iranian Freedom" to those who looked on at the holocaust, Mr pilger at the same time refers to the deaths of British soliders in Afghanistan as "pointless". I offer my apologies, but I personally see the dismantlement of the Taliban (a regime that destroyed ancient Buddhist monuments,denied women human rights ,was guilty of ethnically cleansing members of the Hazara people, as well as running a facist totalitarian state) as anything but a "pointless" enterprise.

Thomas Ellis

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